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JD 8530
« Thread Started on May 28, 2007, 11:30am »
I have just bought a JD 8530 IVT tractor. It was a hard decision between a MX 310, Fendt 936 and the 8530. I had my mind set on a vario type gearbox so the 310 even though a nice well priced tractor sort of ruled itself out from the start. The new Fendt's are a very nice machine but they have a price tag to match. I think they have just priced themselves out of the market as a new 936 is over £105,000 after discount, where as the deere was £85,000 and only 25hp less on paper. I am just not that happy I have made the right decision as I am not a John Deere person. The tractor will be a tillage and drilling tractor on a 5m top down and 8m vaderstad doing about 800 hours per year. The tractor being replaced is a challenger 55 which struggled with the top down.
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« Reply #1 on May 28, 2007, 11:38am »
You get what you pay for i'm afraid ::) there is nothing on the market that compares to the new 900 series fendt. You may of paid less now but if your going to do serious hours with it then the residual value and running costs come into the 900's favour. Add 60k, the best IVT transmission, stability control, air cab suspension, front linkage etc then the costs become more like for like.
And also the direct model to a 8520 is a 933 not a 936 ;D
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« Reply #2 on May 28, 2007, 12:19pm »
An 8530 is 335hp with max boost to 350 so the direct comparison is actually the 936. I looked into this extensively and when you get the stats of the 933 you see its not a direct competitor to the 8530. I know the extra spec on the fendt does make it look better but I was concerned about getting the £20,000 difference back after 4000 hours work. The 60km/h of the fendt is not relevant to me because there is no way we would pull the top down or drill at those sort of speeds. As said I am a bit worried but its down to money really.
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« Reply #3 on May 28, 2007, 12:33pm »
ya talking to ya self huh

first sign of insanity, second sign is you own something with yellow wheels

good luck on your purchase, if i was to buy a vario, it would only come from the agco stable, if i wanted a powershift, i would own a magnum

but thats me
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Re: JD 8530
« Reply #4 on May 28, 2007, 1:40pm »
Hey puddly what about the Deutz TTV and the Steyrs of many colors?
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Re: JD 8530
« Reply #5 on May 28, 2007, 3:00pm »
Hi guest ,
would be nice if you registered but hey no problem !
I am by no means a big Deere fan but saying that ,I do like the 8530 .there are a few around here and they are all getting good reports .
I found it to be a very powerful and comfortable tractor to drive ,but that is only my opinion after a few hours of driving a friends .
As for your worrys about not buying the fendt !!!! chill out ;) I for one think you made the right desision , Correct me if I am wrong your deere has a 9 litre motor and The much talked about 936 has a 7.14 litre I know which tractor I would want on tillage work !!!
The fendt is a nice tractor but they do suffer from rubber hp :D you will find your Deer transmision will transfer more power to the ground than the Fendt ;)
If you are still not satisfied with your 8530 in a few months swap it in for a Xerion ,then you will be totally happy 8-)

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PS- Profi gave the 8530 an excellent write up this month so it can`t be that bad !!!
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« Reply #6 on May 28, 2007, 4:57pm »
There is something I don't get: Why not replace the Challenger 55 with a Challenger MT700b series? Money? ???

I think the max boost on the JD8530 is more than 350hp...

Another thing: Will this tractor get duals all around?

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« Reply #7 on May 28, 2007, 7:31pm »
----------------------------Fendt 933------JD 8530----------Fendt 936
Rated Power (ECE-R24)------300------------320--------------330
Max Power (ECE-R24)--------330------------350-------------360

Rated Power (EC 97/68)-----324-------------330-------------355
Max Power (EC 97/68)-------333-------------360-------------366

As usual with Deere they primarily quote the highest value (EC 97/68) rather than the more truthful value (ECE-R24).
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« Reply #8 on May 29, 2007, 8:05am »
The new MT700 series are just to expensive for 800 hours per year. We did consider a used one but I wanted some warranty which was not fourth coming so we decided to make a move back to wheels thinking if we had to it could do other things. Also if we find the wheels are not what we wanted we could fit the stocks tracks to the 8530 and still have wheels in the shed. Normally because we take so long to decide on this sort of thing I end up always happy, but this time I do not at this stage.
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« Reply #9 on May 29, 2007, 5:34pm »
How does the Challenger MT700B series compare with the Fendt 900 series in terms of prices?

Isn't the price of a wheel tractor with the stocks tracks close to a tracked machine like the Challengers? If you were happy with the tracks, I would have stuck with the tracks.

Will the tractor have duals all around?

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« Reply #10 on May 30, 2007, 2:50pm »
A new MT765 was about £5000 more than a 936 but about half as versatile. If I was prepared to spend that kind of money then the Fendt wins hands down because it wont sit in the shed for 9 months like a challenger would.
The 8530 stands us at £85,000 and a set of stocks tracks can be had for less than £20,000 second hand so about the same as a Fendt but still more versatile. We wont use dual wheels due to road restrictions so its coming on a set of 800 Michelins but we might just swap to a set of 850 Trellebourg's in due course.
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« Reply #11 on May 30, 2007, 3:34pm »
I would put Michelin Axiobib tires on this tractor, nothing else.

If you want a cheap, wheeled tractor for tillage work, why not buy a tractor like the Buhler 2000 series? I am sure it's way cheaper than any other comparable tractor. Even a STX 280/330 should be cheaper than those top of the line row crop models.
Equipped with 4 x 800/70R38 Michelin Axiobib, it should work just fine. No need to put duals, no need to buy stocks tracks either...

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Re: JD 8530
« Reply #12 on May 30, 2007, 6:01pm »
That's true, an articulated tractor can put more power to the ground on singles due to bigger front wheels...

When will we see ant eaters (IH 3588) and County's coming back in Europe, due to the improved traction within the same transport width ?
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« Reply #13 on May 30, 2007, 11:08pm »
I couldn't agree more with Renze about the Anteaters and Countys. Very few people see the point of such tractor concepts today and think of them as weird animals. This is because the traditionnal 2WD+MFWD have seen such an incredible evolution than people (and engineers obviously... ::) ) don't think outside the box anymore, stick to usual design and keep refining it again and again.
In my opinion, it is high time to stop cranking the power up on the 2WD+MFWD (400hp max is enough) and bring something new to the market in the 350-600hp range.
If the manufacturers did the exact tractor I have in mind, that would be hit. The manufacturer that would come up with this particuliar tractor would kill the market on the spot. It's as simple as that. 8-)
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Re: JD 8530
« Reply #14 on May 30, 2007, 11:14pm »
Manufacturers don't want to "Kill" the market, they want to "capture" it! :P
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