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Post by phil on Apr 17, 2003 19:25:10 GMT 1
just wondering, what are some of the most reliable tractors ever built? It would be interesting to hear your views! My vote goes to Fordson Major and then to our Zetor 5211! It just goes on , and on, and on...........................
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Post by eppie on Apr 17, 2003 20:37:38 GMT 1
So, you like your 5211 better than your 8011 ??
If it was a small Zetor, it would be a 7 series. They were both durable and reliable. The later ones, 9-0-2 series were durable, but not the most reliable due to the often discussed bugs. Anyway, i am willing to take these ever returning small efforts and 20 dollar repairs, because nothing else will break on the 5245....
we have great experience with a 4712. It outworked our neighbor's Renault 651 (65 hp) and it just wore some clutch pressure fingers and an electrical wire failure (smoke and smell...)
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Post by CASEIHTRACTORS on Apr 17, 2003 21:08:24 GMT 1
For myself from experience, it has got to be our 78hp 1978 IH 674. 7000 hours and we have not touched the engine or backend. Although much of the cab has rotted away, the tractor still works for a living spreading manure every day.
Howard
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Post by Woodbeef on Apr 17, 2003 23:49:13 GMT 1
I'd have to say from my personal experiences,Steyr 8080a.
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Post by Juha M on Apr 18, 2003 10:32:07 GMT 1
7000 hours??? That's not even much yet... I think the most reliable tractors are Fiat 1000-series, 80 and 90 -series. From Valmet, 8000-series are very reliable. I know many 8000-series valmets which have over 10000 hours without problems, many have even 15000 hours. And these hours are from very hard work. If we look old tractors, i think the most reliable are fordson major/super major. Valmet 361/565 are also very realiable old tractors.
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Post by New Hollander on Apr 18, 2003 21:56:31 GMT 1
My vote goes to Deutz 06-series. Our 4506 has over 10.000 hours, almost no trouble only wearparts.
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Post by Jarno Reulink on Apr 19, 2003 9:03:17 GMT 1
For me, the most reliable tractor is a MF 35 (x). The best tractor built ever! Jarno Reulink Holland
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Post by Hendrik17 on Apr 19, 2003 9:07:15 GMT 1
7000 hrs is really not too much in about 25 years... We had a 1989 JD 3050 with about 9000 hrs with only little probs and the cab was still not rotten away ;-). Also we have a 1995 JD 6300 with very little probs. It has now about 7000 hrs and runs still very fine...
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Post by leemsutton on Apr 19, 2003 10:54:08 GMT 1
MF 135 because its so simple nothing can really go wrong with it.
Or a mor emodern machine a Case 956/1056 XL tractor.
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Post by eppie on Apr 19, 2003 12:50:07 GMT 1
If we want to throw engine hours around, i have something too: Our Ursus C-385-A had 14.800 hours before it died. I have driven this with only 5 liters of oil in the tranny, when 60 liter was supposed (i filled 55 liter in once...) The bolts between rear axle and tranny ran loose, due to loader work (and poor tightening after a tranny repair, a year earlier) The fitting pins didn't touced the holes, when i revved up, the nose wagged 5 ot 7 centimeters, the whole tractor hung together in just the drive shafts, bacause nothing else was tightened. The rear end parts had a 2 centimeter slot between them. After oil filling and tightening the bolts, we had it then for 2 years... By the way, that 4712 did some hours too !!
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Post by phil on Apr 19, 2003 16:17:04 GMT 1
Renze, we dont have a 8011 any more. i didnt rate them much apart from pulling power............. How about this then for hours: A guy in England has clocked up about 44,000 hours in 22 years on his Leyland 272! That averages 2000 hours a year and it aparantly has been very reliable. Check out Nov 2002 issue of Classic Tractor for details. Plus, the tractor had been used as a hedge cutting tractor for all that time..........................
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Post by eppie on Apr 19, 2003 17:06:55 GMT 1
What is hedge cutting, how is it done, with what type of machine I dont know this, so it doesn't tell me much about the kind of use of the tractor
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Post by Fred on Apr 19, 2003 21:16:19 GMT 1
Hedge Cutting: Flail cutter of type made by McConnel, Bomford, Spearhead on the end of large arm. Guess they are mainly for ditch grass cutting in Holland. The 272 Phil talked about does not run at top revs and the hours are those it's been operating not those on the clock compared to rated speed. Still an amazing feat.
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Post by eppie on Apr 20, 2003 10:16:56 GMT 1
Thanks, now i know what you mean. Indeed, flail mowers are 99% used for ditch mowing or rough grass and twigs alongside roads. Our municipal town service has two of them, not on a large arm but on the 3p hitch, on a horizontal swing arm to sling it around trees so that the tractor can drive straight ahead when mowing around trees.
How many overhauls did this Leyland have ?? Was it just some piston rings and valve grinds, or complete renewal of drive parts ??
I believe flail mowers do nothing to tranny and axle, just the PTO drive. Anyway, it must have been strong anyway if this arm hung on the side of it, putting torsion on the frame all those years.
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Post by phil on Apr 20, 2003 19:47:03 GMT 1
Renze, Over here, hedge cutting tractors are treated quite badly, or seem that way, because they are under constant bombardement from branches, twigs etc. The tractor, from what i can remember,has had no engine overhaul and looks in very good nick for a hedge cutting tractor. Nevertheless, that is a bl**dy good achievement for any tractor
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