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Post by gest on Jul 20, 2004 21:13:13 GMT 1
Wondering what tractors share the same plateform in the SDF lineup. In n. america, the deutz agrotron sort of lost it intial comeback. a lot of hype and few sales, and now, you dont hear anything about them, or every dealer ads.
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Post by Red Painter on Jul 20, 2004 22:07:19 GMT 1
Can't answer your question, but seems that looking at McCormick dealer lists many non major dealers in NA who need a tractor line have been able to take on McCormick line building on IH history leaving less oportunity for Argo tractors.
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Post by Red Painter on Jul 20, 2004 22:16:08 GMT 1
Woops, got my groups mixed up. McCormick is ARG0. Less chance for less known SDF in NA except for Same Mudders.
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Post by Bernhard on Jul 21, 2004 23:22:34 GMT 1
after take over of Deutz-Fahr by SLH group the Deutz got the same tranny and same frontaxle...but engines are Deutz. And the company isn´t called SLH(Same, Laborghini, Huerlimann) it´s called SDF now (Same-Deutz-Fahr) , don´t really know why...
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Post by Jas on Jul 23, 2004 11:13:24 GMT 1
There are some cross over between the two brands now. The Iron series is similar to the new Deutz Agroton. Will be interesting to see if Same also get Deutz motors in them. The old Deutz motors have got a good reputation for being reliable.
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Post by guest on Jul 24, 2004 9:36:19 GMT 1
same will build in the next years: 0-45 hp at lublin mitsu engine (deutz-fahr, same, lamborghini, hurlimann, MF 45-130 hp at treviglio same/deutz engine (same, deutz-fahr, lamborghini, hurlimann, agco and special MF) 130-265 hp at lauingen deutz engine (deutz-fahr, same and lamborghini. 40-90 hp at india same engine (old explorer series and simple tractors for local market).
there goal is that diverend engines, trannies and caps not to mix up between diverend factorys, reduse complexety the say. If you have ever seen how many type's and sorts come out of the treviglio factory you get dissie. The man who work at the assembly line's are seeing many tipe's come by on one day, It is probleby a hell of a yob to get the right parts on the right moment at the line. the output at treviglio is still about 100 tractors a day and the same pices of same engine's.
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Post by polska rolnik on Jul 27, 2004 12:13:16 GMT 1
You have to check the polnish side of sdf better www.samedeutz-fahr.plno engine smaller then 50 hp....and 50 60 and 70 hp only for polnish market
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Post by gasse on Jul 27, 2004 12:42:10 GMT 1
only the deutz-fahr agrokid series the lamborghini R1 and the same solaris are bilt in lubiana in poland. they even built this tractors vor mf. www.samedeutz-fahr.com
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Post by Bernhard on Jul 27, 2004 18:28:04 GMT 1
Lubiana? Sounds like Yugoslavia! The town is Melgiew in Lublin area, lubelskie
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Post by ZJ on Jul 27, 2004 21:40:27 GMT 1
"no engine smaller then 50 hp....and 50 60 and 70 hp only for polnish market"
Polish model Roller is mechanically similar to model Argon, with Dorado cab. Main difference is: all Roller models have short wheelbase (193cm), like Argon 50, when Argon 60 & 70 have longer wheelbase (206cm).
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Post by geust on Aug 2, 2004 19:27:43 GMT 1
Lamborghini best sold tractor of polen at the moment. One of the tree new tractors sold at polen is a lamborghini !!! SDF is rising
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Post by Bernhard on Aug 2, 2004 20:39:54 GMT 1
Do You have an amount, how many Lambos ran in Poland? I am there often during the year...but never seen a Lamborghini.
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Post by geust on Aug 2, 2004 20:58:07 GMT 1
it is a press relaese from sdf look at there site
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Post by Bernhard on Aug 2, 2004 21:01:48 GMT 1
Ok, I´ll do...but this is only a subjective thought from a manufacturer. I would say JD is very big there, even CNH.
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Post by Bernhard on Aug 2, 2004 21:08:09 GMT 1
please post me a link...didn´t find any infos at their website...
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