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JD 8530
May 30, 2007 23:24:10 GMT 1
Post by greenguy on May 30, 2007 23:24:10 GMT 1
I meant kill the other manufacturers and get a big market share. ;D
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JD 8530
May 31, 2007 18:44:49 GMT 1
Post by adamL on May 31, 2007 18:44:49 GMT 1
Correct me if I am wrong your deere has a 9 litre motor and The much talked about 936 has a 7.14 litre I know which tractor I would want on tillage work !!! ain't no substitoot for good......engine design.
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Post by eppie on Jun 1, 2007 18:44:10 GMT 1
AdamL, you're right here about the MAN engine, but that only counts for the 900 series...
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Post by Jas on Jun 2, 2007 0:53:56 GMT 1
Hi
Renze you are slightly wrong.
The new 900 series is equipped with a Deutz engine, so now all of the Fendt range come with Deutz engines
Ciao
Jas
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Post by Lee on Jun 2, 2007 14:17:19 GMT 1
I have just bought a JD 8530 IVT tractor. It was a hard decision between a MX 310, Fendt 936 and the 8530. I had my mind set on a vario type gearbox so the 310 even though a nice well priced tractor sort of ruled itself out from the start. The new Fendt's are a very nice machine but they have a price tag to match. I think they have just priced themselves out of the market as a new 936 is over £105,000 after discount, where as the deere was £85,000 and only 25hp less on paper. I am just not that happy I have made the right decision as I am not a John Deere person. The tractor will be a tillage and drilling tractor on a 5m top down and 8m vaderstad doing about 800 hours per year. The tractor being replaced is a challenger 55 which struggled with the top down. Guest - we have just done a very similar thing actually. Came away from 2 crawlers into one fendt (930) last year but it was not big enough so just hired a 8530 IVT for this next season to see how it goes. It should be better than the 930 but not quite as good as the 936 we demo'd, but as you say a lot cheaper. We were quoted £110k for a 936!
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Post by RmarkV on Jun 2, 2007 17:27:11 GMT 1
we were quoted straigh deal no trade in €166,000 for a 930
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Post by Richard_S on Jun 2, 2007 17:52:07 GMT 1
we were quoted straigh deal no trade in €166,000 for a 930 That's £112,500
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Post by eppie on Jun 2, 2007 18:24:49 GMT 1
Hi Renze you are slightly wrong. The new 900 series is equipped with a Deutz engine, so now all of the Fendt range come with Deutz engines Ciao Jas hmm, you're right.... the MAN engine was 6.8 liter, not 7.14 indeed..... But then i agree with Xerion, neither i am Deere minded, but then i'd rather get a Deere (if i ever had to buy a 300 hp tractor, that is ) The MF DynaVT wouldnt be that bad after all...
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Post by RmarkV on Jun 2, 2007 19:13:13 GMT 1
If you had a choice of the Man or Deutz engine which would you go with?
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Post by eppie on Jun 3, 2007 10:30:37 GMT 1
The MAN engine, despite it's smaller displacement than the Deutz... like AdamL said, there aint no substitute for good engine design These engines were, as far as i know, trouble free and reliable, and as a truck engine, designed to get lots of hp from a small displacement and built to do that.. Something i have my doubts of with the Deutz... The MAN 6.9 liter engine does up to 326 hp in trucks... to achieve long term reliabiltiy in tractor applications, it should do about 20% less hp than in a truck application, because of the more demanding use in tractors. MAN probably refused to deliver Fendt with the 326 hp version for tractors... We have a customer who insists on getting his 184 hp, 400 Nm Mercedes Sprinter 318 5th wheel tractor, equipped with the chip of the 3.0 V6 in the E-class, to give this engine its 238 hp and 510 Nm... Well there is a good reason that Merc takes it easier with this engine in a commercial vehicle than in a high end passenger car...
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Post by RmarkV on Jun 3, 2007 22:44:37 GMT 1
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Post by leemsutton on Jun 8, 2007 20:06:10 GMT 1
I know of a 930 purchased 3 years ago for £80k. Now clocked 3000 hours and the trade offer on it is £48k. New spec bonnet etc.
This is not good really - whats a 3 year old JD 8520 with 3000 hours on it making at the moment? £55k?
That 930 has lost close to £11/clock hour. Normally they loose about £7/clock hour.
Have the new prices put people off?
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Post by adamL on Jun 9, 2007 11:11:15 GMT 1
I know of a 930 purchased 3 years ago for £80k. Now clocked 3000 hours and the trade offer on it is £48k. New spec bonnet etc. This is not good really - whats a 3 year old JD 8520 with 3000 hours on it making at the moment? £55k? That 930 has lost close to £11/clock hour. Normally they loose about £7/clock hour. Have the new prices put people off? Lee, why did they sell a tractor with only 3,000 hours on it? Fendt have a reputation for long life, so why not use it? Obviously depreciation is a big issue, but is the the £11/clock hour the full story?
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Post by eppie on Jun 9, 2007 17:43:45 GMT 1
Lee, why did they sell a tractor with only 3,000 hours on it? Fendt have a reputation for long life, so why not use it? long life of machinery isnt the whole story either. It depends on how many overhauls and repairs a person is willing to pay, before he writes off his gear. When tractors have a good resale value, people will longer keep investing overhauls and repairs in it because they think it economically makes sense.
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Post by JD Kid on Jun 10, 2007 6:25:03 GMT 1
Hi ya how many over huals ya thinking of my self i'd be spitting sparks if i knew what the inside of a modern motor looked like at under 10 000 hours same with most of the running gear ..like my cat dozer talking to a spanner man that works on them i have a lemon if i touch it before 12000 hours at 12000 start digging deep in to ya pockets .. sure at 10000 ya dont trade ya scrap them but over that time ya got ya moneys worth out of them trick is knowing when to get out before the bills come in a 3000 hour fendt i'd have no prob whacking another 3000 on it and then trading thing is whats it going to be worth with 6000 hours on it catch ya JD
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