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JD 8530
Jun 16, 2007 10:35:21 GMT 1
Post by Lee on Jun 16, 2007 10:35:21 GMT 1
adam,
The tractor is owned by a hire company who swaps every 3 years on all his equipment. The tractor has had no issues at all in its 3000 hours and they use fendt because of high residual values.
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JD 8530
Jun 16, 2007 15:24:19 GMT 1
Post by adamL on Jun 16, 2007 15:24:19 GMT 1
adam, The tractor is owned by a hire company who swaps every 3 years on all his equipment. The tractor has had no issues at all in its 3000 hours and they use fendt because of high residual values. Lee, is there much difference on the residuals of an ex-rental and a similar one owner tractor?
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Post by Lee on Jun 17, 2007 9:03:00 GMT 1
adam,
Not as far as I am aware. I have a couple of friends who hire tractors out and also know a few others who do it on a big scale.
The 'knack' of a good hire business is to buy with fleet discount, run the tractor for a year whilst charging for the hire, then selling it for the same price as you paid for it.
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JD 8530
Jun 17, 2007 20:49:19 GMT 1
Post by adamL on Jun 17, 2007 20:49:19 GMT 1
are they still exporting the ex rentals?
When I was on my middle year in the early '90's the farm I worked on hired a lot of tractors. Some of those used to go to Europe, but Sterling was weaker then.
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JD 8530
Jun 18, 2007 14:19:34 GMT 1
Post by Lee on Jun 18, 2007 14:19:34 GMT 1
adam,
I am not sure but I guess it still goes on. The sterling is a lot stronger now making exports very difficult though.
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JD 8530
Sept 30, 2007 22:47:37 GMT 1
Post by offroadtrd on Sept 30, 2007 22:47:37 GMT 1
Going back to page 2 of this forum, the guys were talking about the fendt having a deutz engine and this and that. My grandparents owned a dairy farm, retired, and now I'm currently managing a dairy farm about 4 miles down the road from there. We have a john deere 8410, two 8300's, several deutz's, a ford 9600 with canopy (silage chopping tractor), one 6588 IH 2+2, one 6388 2+2, a 7045 AC (pulling ass tractor), and a couple small tractors. I know one thing of all the years of field experience I have though. The john deeres are VERY nice tractors as long as they don't break down (seldomly). They deutz's we have are the MOST RELIABLE tractors EVER!!! Good on fuel and easy on the check book. The deutz's are mid- 1970 models and they haven't seen 10,000 dollars in repairs altogether since we've had them. I've chopped thousands of acres throughout the years with a deutz 130-06 and never even thought of it breaking down on me and chopping silage is the hardest job a tractor can do. I like john deeres but they are NOTHING compared to the fendt (deutz motor) in terms of reliablity. MY OWN OPINION THOUGH. So please fellas, don't get offended. Just my two cents.
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JD 8530
Oct 13, 2007 16:21:40 GMT 1
Post by Guest on Oct 13, 2007 16:21:40 GMT 1
Hi again I am the one that bought the 8530 to go on my topdown and vaderstad. Generally we are very happy with it and its a nice tractor to drive. I wish we had the pickup hitch so that will be a winter add on I think as bringing home the seed trailer every night is a bit of a issue at the moment. The downside is the amount of fuel its using as its taking 25l/ha to establish the crops with it which is a bit frightening. The older Challenger 55 was 9l/ha less even though its a smaller machine. We are happy though so I might have some green blood in me after all
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Post by pudding as guest on Oct 14, 2007 5:37:12 GMT 1
nice fleet offroadtrd!,
the old deutz were good machines, some tended to out live the gearboxes, (DX160)
like all brands they had there strengths and weaknesses, would like to see pics of ya 6588 and 6388
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JD 8530
Oct 16, 2007 10:30:33 GMT 1
Post by Phillip on Oct 16, 2007 10:30:33 GMT 1
We have a 8530 working around here that I have been told is using 65l/hour towing a JD swinging plough.
That kind of consumption would be hurting anyones the wallet?
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JD 8530
Oct 17, 2007 18:58:56 GMT 1
Post by Lee as guest on Oct 17, 2007 18:58:56 GMT 1
We had a 8530 in July and its now clocked about 450 hours. Been used on a variety of tasks such as chaser bin, corn cart, drilling, subsoiling, discing, pressing etc.
Very nice tractor to operate and the Autotrac is great most of time. However the downside's are:
1. Persistent hydraulic oil problem - warning lights galore and lots of oil lost out of sticky spool valves. Hopefully this has now been cured though.
2. Horrible squeaky seat - now sorted
3. Horrible squeaky front window. After 6 attempts the window was taken out and then put back in with some grub screws a week ago. So far so good.
4. The console on the right hand side is very dated now and needs changing.
So really I think the build quality is not what you expect from the tractor. That said I repeat its a nice tractor and I am a happy users bar one serious thing - its fuel usage.
We call it the alcoholic tractor. Its frightening what it consumes irrelevant of job. On the drill (6m) it works out at about £2.20/acre. Disc & press about the same (6.5m) but on the subsoiler (4.8m flatlift) it uses £5.70/acre. On the chaser bin (22t version) it was using 48l/hour and on a 18 tonne grain trailer 35l/hour which is over £13/hour in fuel alone. Its not good.
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JD 8530
Oct 18, 2007 20:02:36 GMT 1
Post by eppie on Oct 18, 2007 20:02:36 GMT 1
They deutz's we have are the MOST RELIABLE tractors EVER!!!.... .... I like john deeres but they are NOTHING compared to the fendt (deutz motor) in terms of reliablity. MY OWN OPINION THOUGH. So please fellas, don't get offended. Just my two cents. If you judge Fendt reliability based on your personal experience with a 130 06, you need to ask around a bit. The new series of Deutz engines that Fendt uses, are underbuilt and are notorious for their habit of cracking the engine block on the place where the motor support is mounted. I know at least 3 different tractors who had this problem, all 409's. one of them also sucked a cracked off piece of its head into the cylinder and is now on its 3rd engine in 4000 hrs. The 700 series are prone to bend crankshafts if excessively braked on the engine. You cant really compare a simple, reliable, fuel efficient 913 series air cooled engine to the newer water cooled, complicated and underbuilt 2013 series.
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