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Post by New Hollander on Jul 23, 2008 21:43:00 GMT 1
Found this one on the boerderij.nl site:  www.boerderij.nl/1057129/Mechanisatie/foto-en-video-mechanisatie/Tolpar-nieuw-Russisch-trekkermerk.htmIt's a new tractor made of Western components like a DF Agrotron cab. Looking at the different components to me it looks like a McCormick. Mr boerderij, could you compare the technical data with the McCormick TTX? Lately we've also seen Kirovets with Deutz/ZF/Valtra/Bosch components and Kamaz building complete McC tractors. Is this the future? Brands like Belarus, Ursus and to some extent Zetor and also brands like Kubota, Iseki or Shibaura could never reach large market shares in the Western Europe ag business. Will they be able to now? What are the thoughts from the members on the othe side of the pond/planet?   New Hollander |
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Post by pudding on Jul 24, 2008 8:00:52 GMT 1
its good to see, ya right, there are enough component manufacturers out there, you can offset a lot of Rand D by using them.....
if the dealers are good, and product is not complete junk, they will sell
iseki now build there own 120hp domestic tractor, they used to use MF sourced one, over 75hp......they still go to MF over 120hp.....kubota does a 120-125hp tractor, i guess the japanese tractor market requires up to 120hp that western tractors cannot supply, i wonder if that has something to do with tractors being designed for 'wetland' application......
ya never know shibaura could be working on its own large hp tractor up to 120hp, that we don't know about yet, and daedong.............they built them 20 years ago, it seems the japanese large tractor exports are doing well again.
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Post by Bernhard on Jul 25, 2008 7:28:10 GMT 1
As long as they can play the advantage of being cheaper the comparable tractors of wellknown brands, they should workout fine. They have less electronic gimmicks and good components and they fit to the russian operators in that case. But for export they must stay cheap, if not...  I have seen a Kubota Agtractor 100 + hp offered here. Not sure if they will sell some. |
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Post by Jon B on Jul 25, 2008 23:43:00 GMT 1
So long as they don't break down mechanically....and they can handle GPS autosteer without too much difficulty, I can't see any problems with these tractors
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Post by adamL on Jul 27, 2008 19:14:35 GMT 1
hopefully that dodgy post won't knacker my laptop.
anyway, are the Russians to be trusted in business? It seems that they like foreign investment, then decide to find some way to make what ever deal they had illegal (assuming it's going well) then take it into state control. Maybe that is just a couple of cases that the media have got hold of.
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Post by eppie on Jul 27, 2008 23:47:09 GMT 1
Thinking of the GazProm stuff, i assume Putin wants to do it again as an indirect public relations stunt... Weird guy this Putin...
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Post by CMunger on Aug 3, 2008 15:55:58 GMT 1
No worse than the Czech's & Solvics
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Post by herry on Aug 7, 2008 9:45:02 GMT 1
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Post by herry on Aug 7, 2008 9:48:48 GMT 1
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Post by herry on Aug 7, 2008 9:52:31 GMT 1
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Post by adamL on Aug 9, 2008 12:36:35 GMT 1
now that the old MX Maxxums and McCormick designs are being assembled in Russia, what is the parts situation? Are all parts still availiable? Did they manufacture anything at Doncaster that can't be bought elsewhere?
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Post by de Jeck em Raehn on Aug 29, 2008 20:35:13 GMT 1
timitimi, du bes ene kleene schwule Wixer!! ;
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Post by dom on Sept 4, 2008 5:34:31 GMT 1
I'm thinking I agree, if indeed I did translate that correctly.
As for exporting these tractors, I think it could work well if the components do hold up. I see a lot of computer type glitches come up in newer equipment that we never saw in the older machines. I'm actually glad I farm with older machinery; I can make repairs myself, without needing to plug in a computer.
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