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Post by Laapa on Jan 6, 2002 18:20:12 GMT 1
I propably shopuld know this by now but someone please explain to me... On AGCO's website they advertise the CVT transmission as an OEM product. www.agcocorp.com/home.aspNow, as far as I know the CVT is the steepless transmission developed by Steyr (used in Steyr CVT and CaseIH CVX), later produced by ZF who also produce a similar transmission for JD, and JD later produced their own steepless tranny for the 7010 series. Agco has a steepless transmission from ther purchase of Fendt, a transmission Fendt developed by themselves before the Agco buyout. If so, how did the CVT end up on Agcos website. Seems to me that would be a competing brand to their Fendt Vario trannys. Someone feel like explaining this mess to me? I bet I got it all backwards... |
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Post by Woodbeef on Jan 6, 2002 18:30:19 GMT 1
CVT stands for Continuously Variable-ratio Transmission,as in a snowmobile or Polaris atv. CVT is a type of drive,like mechanical,powershift,hydrostatic,etc.... Whether you are talking about the S-tronic(aka S-matic)Vario,Ecomm they are all from different manufacturers,but all are types of CVT transmissions.
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Post by Laapa on Jan 6, 2002 18:36:01 GMT 1
That i did not realize, i thought CVT was a trademark of Steyr (or ZF I guess).
So the CVT on Agcos website is the Fendt one then.
German manufacturer Horsch used to máke toolcarriers of Fendt Varios, I think they went on to Fasttracs later. Is this beacuse they were unable to continue their relationship with Fendt after the AGCO buyout?
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Post by AgMachinery on Jan 6, 2002 20:11:09 GMT 1
If i am correct Horsch is still building toolcarriers with a Fendt Vario transmission. At the moment they are the only one. I think that will change soon now that this transmission is available from Agco as OEM.
It seems a bit strange though. Ratliff always said that someone else (he pointed to MF) could use the Vario transmission as soon as Fendt had developed a Generation II of this transmission. At the moment 1) MF is testing some tractors with the Vario, 2) others can buy the technology also, so adding those this up Fendt must have a new one waiting...
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Post by martijn on Jan 6, 2002 21:22:16 GMT 1
:)I,ve heart that MF is devolopment a CVT by their own. They will itroduce it in 2 years.
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Post by Woodbeef on Jan 6, 2002 23:12:07 GMT 1
Seeing that both M/F and Renault own Gima,it would be a joint venture then. I can not really see Agco spending the $$$ though when Fendt alrerady has one they can take off of the shelf. Plus with Agco's ties to SD-F they could use the same one as Deutz-Fahr does from ZF. I could see Fendt developing one for Gima though.
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Post by eppie on May 21, 2002 16:13:10 GMT 1
Rumors are, that Renault will develope a belt-type variomatic like used in the DAF carsin the 50's.
The automobile division is developing one with Nissan. When the automobile verion is ready, they will start to make one for tractor use.
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Post by HPP on May 22, 2002 7:57:31 GMT 1
Hey Renze, and others
check out Profi, german version, may -02 issue. Pages 70 - 74. They are running a article-series on stepless transmissions. Started april-issue. History and all.
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Post by eppie on May 22, 2002 18:32:15 GMT 1
Where to buy german version Profi in Holland??
I'm noy gonna drive all the way to Germany to buy one, or pay lots of money to let them send me one...
Do they publish it electronically??
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Post by Woodbeef on May 22, 2002 22:51:24 GMT 1
Hey Renze,
You tight wad!!
Maybe if you ask "Sir Lee" nicely he can get the copies sent to you. He seems to be one of the U.K. division's favorite "poster boys" of late!!
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Post by HPP on May 23, 2002 8:18:35 GMT 1
Well, thight or not, when a poor bastard like me can afford it......
In my opinion profi is the best magazine there is and it´s really not expensive. (Unless you would like to place an ad in it!)
Some of the articles are published electronically, I´m not sure about this one (or two actually), haven´t checked.
However, the articles are good and very informative. It´s really worth a little struggle if you´re interested and I can tell that you are. Eventually these articles will show up in the profi International (english version) if you´re not that keen on german.
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Post by Xavier on May 24, 2002 0:15:52 GMT 1
About profi, you can read some article in pdf format at www.profi.com in the germany version. You may register. I don't speak germany but with a few time you will be able to understand more than you think at start, units will help you very much kw are the same in english in germany than in catalonian. Anyone, a german colleague, knows if the german and the english version are the same. The english version is a translate of the same articles? Or is more indicate to english farmers? |
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Post by kenjar on May 24, 2002 2:42:02 GMT 1
Hi Xavier,
I think the Profi is different for each language.I noticed on the German site they have an article on the Sampo Rosenlew mahdrescher(combine) and on the English site it is not listed.
Hey Profi subscribers,
Are you receiving your Profi's on time? I haven't received my May issue yet.
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Post by HPP on May 24, 2002 8:15:08 GMT 1
Got my may-issue last week of april, that´s where the article on the CVT-trannies is.
About the difference between german and english versions: As far as I´ve learned the major articles and the tractor tests are the same. It´s just that you don´t find them in the two versions at the same time. A tractor test from the may-issue, german, you might find in profi International in the august-issue.
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Post by Woodbeef on May 24, 2002 14:41:33 GMT 1
Hey Kenjar,
Mine came yesterday. I thought that my sub might have run out when it did not come at the end of April. If it does not come send Martin an email at Profi. he's on this board some times.
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