Short Fendt question

[Laapa]

Any particular reason the wheels on Fendt are Red in Europe and Silver in the US?

[F6L913]

Do AGCO import the tractors with wheels or without?
Maybe they put a diferent barnd of wheels in America

[Woodbeef]

It is for wheel weight compatability. Since the Fendt  brand is expected to be such a low volume seller Agco does not want go have to have special ones painted red.

To tell you the truth I think they look better in the N.A. color. It makes the whole tractor look nicer!

[Laapa]

Hey Woodbeef, what do you mean by "wheel Wheight Compatability"? Are Fendt Wheels lighter/heavier?

Also it makes little sense Agco could not spend the extra $$$ to have the wheels Fendt Red. Painting seems to be something they are quite good at (they kept White and AgcoAllis going as two seperate brands for quite a few tears...).

Do the US silver wheels look better? Well, they look pretty good, but nothing like a Fendt. It's like putting red wheels on JD too me!

Perhaps AGCO are trying to play some sort of color-recognition game t attract past Deutz-owners?

[kenjar]

Laapa,
The first Fendts sold here had the red wheels.These were the 900's.
When Agco released the 400 and 700 series they also added the grey wheels. Why? Who knows, maybe when they ship the tractors overseas they come without wheels. This way they only have to stock one color.

For it to be a Fendt it should have the red rims.

The weight compatability thing, hmmm.  is grey lighter than red.

[Richard_S]

Laapa,

In the UK the colour is optional.  You can have red, silver or grey wheels, any colour roof, even the green can be different.

I will find my price quotation and post the options tomorrow.

Cheers

Richard.

[Red_Painter]

It's my understanding that many imported tractors use wheels and tires from the country where they are sold. (at least in the past). I remember seeing Steigers leaving the factory with paint all over the rubber since those tires and wheels were going  to be exchanged for Australian tires and wheels upon arrival and the other tires returned to the factory.
As far as the color of Fendt wheels in America, I think that the silver/gray  wheels look better to the American farmer than the red wheels. What looks good in some countries can look rediculous in other countries. In Germany and other places the red wheels probably give the feeling of strength and power, but in the US  I doubt that feeling would follow. To me red wheels look odd to say the least and the silver/gray lighter wheels look better and make acceptability more likely. European machinery (except smaller tractors) has had difficulty being accepted here and the more different it looks, the harder it is to be accepted in my opinion.

[Woodbeef]

Laapa,

If I still have the email that I sent my friend at Fendt N.A. last summer when I asked the wheel color question,I'll fwd it to you.

[eppie]

I have also seen that the N.A. Fendts have different rear axles. They have the usual north american trackwidth adjustment, with a flange that can slide over a shaft. Maybe this has something to do with it??
The ordinary Fendt rear axles have flange and shaft from one piece in Europe.

The sliding flange trackwidth system is also used on Zetors sold in Czech republic, i havent seen these rear axles in western Europe yet.

[[e-mail]]

All tractors imported to the United States are different to some degree than their European counterpart.  The U.S. Fendt tractors have "Bar" axles that they do not use in Germany.  This was a combination of market demand for that type axle and ease of swapping the wheels for the dealer.  We actually buy the tractor less wheels then buy what ever size wheels the end user wants at the time of purchase.  We never guess right, therefore all AGCO products using a same wheel set-up increases the size of our wheel "bank."  This does also help the wheel weight problem too.

[Richard_S]

OK, in front of me I have the latest Fendt 714 UK price list.  There are so many options it extends to 5 pages!

Renze, you are right about the N.A spec tractors, as "North American spec" is £5415 GBP extra.

Colour - Roof white, 0 GBP
             Roof green, 151 GBP
             Roof colour on customers request, 452 GBP
             Cab/bonnet green, wheels red, 0 GBP
             Cab/bonnet green, wheels silver 0 GBP
             Cab/bonnet petrol , wheels white, 247 GBP
             Cab/bonnet RAL2011 , wheels red, 96 GBP
             Other colours on request, 675 GBP.



There is approx 25% discount off these prices.

Regards,

Richard.

[Red_Painter]

To kind of turn this question another way. What I don't understand is why the big American Agco and Massey tractors don't have the nice looking roof line on their large tractor cabs like the European Massey's have. Instead they have the narrower roof on the cabs that doesn't look nearly as good, in my opinion, as the nice looking European Massey Ferguson tractors. The 8100 series had them. The American version roof line seems more like a rounded version of the old White modified cab of the earlier Agco Allis, which I really didn't like, although the White I did like. Why change something like a cab roof when it looks better? (my opinion of course)
IH went to white wheels when they came out with the 1206 in the 60's, (My dad had a picture of one he demoed), but they went back to red shortly after in North America. Those cream colored white wheels really looked nice. Maybe like Fendt in Germany tradition carries alot of importance in color selection.

[Woodbeef]

Some of the differences between Euro and N.A. specs:
color of wheels
warning decals
warranty
bar axle
size of cab? (do not really understand where or how)
amount of lights

For saftey laws
EPC Lift controls
PTO switches
emissions

This info is from a N.A. Fendt Product Specialist that I contacted last summer.