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Post by SDF@SD.ES on May 16, 2002 21:14:38 GMT 1
I still have problems with login in.
Maybe, but not sure.
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Post by SDF@SD.ES on May 16, 2002 21:15:21 GMT 1
I still have problems with login in.
Maybe, but not sure. I think the torque converter was made by Vickers.
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Post by HPP on May 17, 2002 10:16:37 GMT 1
Hey Renze! You wont get no 10 grand from me! You just jump in to any Fendt Vario, pull out the mecanical handle and off you go! As allways Fendt makes it possible to drive their tractors should anything happen with the electronics. So, what about developing software? How should I know what they did in those years or not. I´m only referring to what I´ve been told by my friends in Marktoberdorf. They once told us at a meeting there, I think it was in -83 or -84, that they had a patent for a mecanical stepless transmission (we then thought that it was a version of the van Doorn-thing "Variomatic"). We of course told them that we wanted this thing available on the market but were told that neighter the market nor our mecanics were ready for that thing!
About torque converters: As far as I know the torgue converters mounted in the Favorit 600:s were built by Fichtel & Sachs, in fact I do know they were. Those things also helps making a tractor a great puller (to get back to the topic somewhat). In the 600:s they were mounted with a lock-up clutch. When accelerating it locked when you reached 1900 rpm and when pressed it opened at 1700 rpm. When needed there was a little button on the floor with wich you could open up the lock-up clutch at any engine revs. A relly nice thing!
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Post by eppie on May 17, 2002 20:01:45 GMT 1
Hey HPP:
I never saw that button on the floor, on the 614 and 612 i drove. Maybe that was just on the older types, or as option.
About that mechanical handle in the vario: Where is that handle?? You mean the stick on the right-hand arm rest?? thats connected to a an electronic potentio-meter, to command the computer.
I will use computers to internet, for traffic lights, and to automatise certain industrial processes. As long as i can get my a$$ into that cab, and that will last to the day i reached the age of 94, I will drive tractors by myself.
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Post by HPP on May 21, 2002 8:11:23 GMT 1
Hey Renze, the handle is in the toolbox, just in case. You open a cover on the floor and there you´ll see were to put the handle. Greetings from a sunny Sweden!
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Post by HPP on May 21, 2002 8:44:01 GMT 1
Renze, almost forgot: The button on the floor of the 600:s was there. As long as it was a Turbomatik E. Up front in the middle of the floor, just below the steering columne. But to tell you the truth you never used it that much. I think I only used it during demoing just to show that it was there.
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Post by eppie on May 21, 2002 12:13:56 GMT 1
Ha !!
You might convince me to go Vario..
I'd grab a hammer and kick that Nintendo sh*t out !! Then i'd plant a handle in the floor hole you spoke about.
About the 400 series: A 412 has the same noise level as our 1976 Zetor 6718, but the Zetor sounds much better. The Deutz engine in the Fendt sounds like someone is drumming on tincans! What an awful noise! The 4 valves per cylinder have only an advance for the mechanic, he can let you pay for twice the valves to grind when its overhauled (or 1 and a half, others have 120 hp six cylinders..) Those engines dont seem to hold up long, my brother said his boss has the 2nd engine in it now.
That 600 series: I drove them only for one or two days. That torque converter is a nice alternative for a powershift. Most of the time, you'll drive with the T.Q. clutch locked up, only in bad parts of soil, it uses the torque converter. As long as the T.Q. is locked, it wont consume extra fuel. A powershift does always consume more fuel than a mechanical shifter.
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