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Post by jeremy on Mar 31, 2006 12:56:07 GMT 1
Any rumours out there about a new CLAAS Jaguar forage chopper with two 16litres-Daimler-Chrysler- engines and about 1000HP???
Similar like Krone BIG X 1000...
Any pictures??
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Post by CMunger on Mar 31, 2006 15:17:28 GMT 1
Any rumors of Claas expanding their tractor line also?
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Post by Elav Nevets on Mar 31, 2006 15:35:39 GMT 1
There are a couple of pictures floating around of a what looks like a bigger 900 with the new Xerion cab.
Difficult to see if it has got two engines though.
Elav
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Post by CMunger on Mar 31, 2006 17:31:40 GMT 1
Elav, What I meant to say, expanding by buying another tractor manufacturer.
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Post by Elav Nevets on Mar 31, 2006 18:11:18 GMT 1
CMunger.
I was actually replying to Jeremy, but on the subject of Claas why would it want to buy another tractor manufacturer?
Elav
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Post by Swissfarmer as guest on Mar 31, 2006 19:32:10 GMT 1
prototype in Paderborn/Germany  |
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Post by Elav Nevets on Apr 1, 2006 9:11:47 GMT 1
Swissfarmer.
There is another working shot in circulation with the new Xerion cab.
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Post by SwissFarmer on Apr 1, 2006 19:42:04 GMT 1
Swissfarmer. There is another working shot in circulation with the new Xerion cab. I found the picture on this website: www.agrartechnik-im-einsatz.deI don't know if there are more than one prototype in testing operation or if exists more than only this machine at all. But I found another interesting picture... Maybe the new Claas Quadrant for 2006 or 2007 season...   |
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Post by powershifter on Apr 1, 2006 22:49:10 GMT 1
the photo from the prototype with the xerion cab was in the profi magazine 2 or 3 month ago
I live near the claas plant Harsewinkel and roumor has it that this prototype can go faster with 10 row header than the jaguar 900 with 8 row header
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Post by SwissFarmer on May 25, 2006 7:58:37 GMT 1
more pictures ;D Claas 3400 baler in the Netherlands    |
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Post by eppie on May 25, 2006 13:30:27 GMT 1
A 1000 hp forage harvester would be the same as the Volkswagen Phaeton: Very few people would buy it, and the manufacturer cant break even on the project itself: All they build them for is for the brags: Look what we can build !! So people will buy their products, but only the smaller models they can economically justify.
In 95% of the silage piles, the loader or tractor cant keep up compacting the silage, so either the quality of silage will suffer, or the harvester cant be used to max. capacity.
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Post by CMunger on May 25, 2006 14:53:07 GMT 1
In the central part of California, there are 200+ Claas forage harvesters in use. Thats in just two counties. Alot of Renze's relatives have dairies here.
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Post by Bernhard on May 25, 2006 14:53:26 GMT 1
If Claas will built this Harvester, it is a must for them cause of Krone has it.
This machine and the gear which is needed for transportation and on the silage stack is not only for EU Farmers, infact there are some Big X around here. It will be made mostly for the big farms in former Soviet Union, US and CDN.
Agmachinery is not comparable with cars, the Phaeton was a shot into the oven and costs VW a lot of money.
What Claas and every other mAgmach manufacturer is doing, is only the step forward. If not, they will stay on the small machinery, we had years ago. Less but bigger farms are needing bigger Equipment, contractors have to went with forward too.
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Post by eppie on May 25, 2006 19:46:23 GMT 1
I wonder how many farms have silage pits big enough to compact with 2 or 3 wheel loaders or Kirovets or Versatiles, to keep up with one 1000 hp forage harvester...
I think many people would choose to buy two regular sized models because the big harvester has to stop to change silage carts driving under the pipe anyways, and it makes the operation less crowded when there are 2 harvesters that are a center point of forage wagons in the field. also the regular sized forage harvesters would have a better resale value because the people that can justify the 1000 hp dont want them anymore when they are 5 years old, so used 1000 hp forage harvesters will resale for the same money as a regular 580 hp model, which means the write off is too big for the 1000 hp model.
Chuck, does any of those 200+ dairies have the need for a 1000 hp forage harvester ? I think the average power would be about 400 hp ?
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Post by CMunger on May 26, 2006 18:28:27 GMT 1
Renze,
You have your numbers wrong, there are 200+ machines, mostly the Claas 900, and the dairymen do not own them, it is all done by custom operaters
Some owning 10 machines, I think the largest one may own 20.
And there are about 600 dairies in these two counties with an average herd size of about 1500 head. There are forage harvesters running about 5 months out of the year. So, trade in value means nothing, after several years the machines are used up. There was some dealers doing two year lease, then getting them back and trying to resale them at a lower cost in different areas, but that has stopped.
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