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Post by New Hollander on Feb 3, 2008 22:57:53 GMT 1
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Post by New Hollander on Feb 4, 2008 23:01:03 GMT 1
Thank you, Trekker en Werktuig, for not mentioning AgMachinery Forum as your source  New Hollander |
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Post by AJ Blomsma T W on Feb 5, 2008 13:56:04 GMT 1
As you are able to look at the Bühler website, so am I.
Kind regards
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Post by AgMachinery on Feb 5, 2008 16:52:46 GMT 1
It's a lot easier to visit just one site instead of searching through lots of them. Isn't it mr. blomsma?
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Post by New Hollander on Feb 6, 2008 0:00:48 GMT 1
Dream on, Mr Blomsma.
This laid back attitude plus the decrease in quality of your magazine has cost you already one subscriber. Not worth it's money anymore (says an ex subscriber since '89, now subscribed to Profi magazine).
New Hollander
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Post by Jon B on Feb 6, 2008 3:56:00 GMT 1
I wonder if this update was in the work before the Rostselmash deal?
They really should have a 240 and 270 hp model as well by now though.
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Post by pudding as guest on Feb 6, 2008 8:07:05 GMT 1
haha,.,,,,,,agmachinery,
bill and ted really had it figured out, listening to jim morrison after following a naked indian through the desert
............BUILD IT AND THEY WILL COME
see you seen that movie
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Post by AgMachinery on Feb 6, 2008 10:42:57 GMT 1
or is it: WE'RE FROM HISTORY?
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Post by Woodbeef on Feb 6, 2008 17:30:34 GMT 1
Is the old Ford engine emission compliant?
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Post by Farmer from Finland on Feb 6, 2008 19:57:47 GMT 1
Hey Woody..after long time!
I quess Ford engine is based same engine as exmple NH TM and Case MXM have.
I replaced my Winner last summer with Case MXM120 and when tractor at last arrived i noticed that
because of emission rules it was really lazy.After about 100 hours maintenance guys measured power and it was OK,about 110 hp in PTO.Problem was that engine gives power with about 1600 rpm and in practice it doesn't keep rpms.Then we added little bit food and also we adjusted spraying point from 0 deg to -7 deg.After those two changes result in dyno is 170 hp in PTO.Tractor changed really,now engine try really keep rounds and work is going ahead..
My understanding is that emission rules+conventional spraying system doesn't work really.With conventional system spraying point is too late and engine is'nt good therefore in practice.
FFF
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Post by CMunger on Feb 8, 2008 0:03:33 GMT 1
The change was ready to be introduced a while back, before Rostelmash, they wanted to make the hood change when they introduced the new engine that will replace the Genisis, but the engine is not ready yet, they thought a face lift would be better than nothing. Buhler bought these engines in a large quanity giving them time to get the new engine fitted. Correct me if I am wrong would Cummins M9 sound right, I beleived AGCO use some of these engines.
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Post by adamL on Feb 9, 2008 18:18:06 GMT 1
on their web site the graph for the engine has 8870 written at the top. All the specs look the same as the old ones to me, so you can by a 1994 tractor in 2008. Nice, good tractors in their day, but the game has moved on. In 1994 you wouldn't be rushing to buy a tractor based on a 1980 TW20, well I wouldn't.
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