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Post by eppie on Oct 28, 2002 21:39:04 GMT 1
Hey, my brother has an old Benz 300 D with the 3 liter 5 pitter OM 617 diesel. They mounted this block also in the Unimog. And so they did with the other diesel engines from the 123W series automobiles. They were used in small buses, forklifts, and boats too.
How long did the Unimog have these car engines? Was the OM 617 the biggest block available in the seventies?
I was thinking the MB-trac had an industrial engine since the concept started.
And how do the Unimog and MB-Trac compare, i mean traction, usability for field work, road comfort?
thanks Renze
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Post by Richard_S on Oct 29, 2002 21:01:31 GMT 1
Renze, We have owned an MB trac 1000 since new in 1984. The engine is a Mercedes OM352. 6 cylinder 5675cc, 95hp at 2400rpm. Ours is 110hp and revs to 2850rpm  We tried a Unimog 1000 years ago, it had the OM352 aswell. Problems were the left hand drive (here in UK), soft rear suspension, and only air trailer brakes (most trailers in UK have hydraulic). The MB was a better compromise between field and road performance. Just for the record we also had a Trantor series 2 for a short time in the late 80's, this was OK for light trailer use, but lacked torque and was useless in the field.  RJS |
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Post by eppie on Oct 29, 2002 21:51:45 GMT 1
Please help me remember: What was a trantor again ??
Wasn't this a synonym for Deutz Intrac ??
Hey, that OM617 Diesel in my brother's car, it has done 835,000 kilometers !! It still starts everyday, so my brother forgives it the blue smoke when the engine is cold...
We have these Unimog ofroad fanatics here. Mostly boyscouts and the such. They have these blocks turbocharged and intercooled to 150 hp, and all kinds of modifications.
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Post by Fred on Oct 29, 2002 21:54:24 GMT 1
You can plough with an MB, you can't with a unimog:) not quite true because with special sensing the unimog could have draught control but generally true. Traction is better on MB but road speed is where the unimog wins. I think Richards right with MB was good compromise.
Richard that Trantor, did it stay long enough to be reliable:) It's a machine I'd like to here more about.
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Post by kenjar on Oct 29, 2002 23:34:02 GMT 1
Renze,
The Trantor was a transport or haulage tractor. I beleive they shared some components with Land Rover.They were made from the mid 1970's till the mid 1990's in the UK.Later, Eicher produced them in India.
Richard,
Your Trantor, did it have the Leyland or Perkins engine? I am like Fred, tell us more.
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Post by Richard_S on Oct 30, 2002 21:11:55 GMT 1
OK, The Trantor was (is) a lightweight tractor built for haulage and light fieldwork. www.trantortractors.comOurs had the leyland 4/98 turbo engine, rated at 96hp. It was a 1984 tractor that had been used to pull a vacum tanker by the North west water autority here in england. Dad bought it at auction in about 1989 for £4500. It had only done about 1200hrs. We used it for a few months then someone wanted to buy it - which they did, for just under £7000  The only breakdown we had was a broken shearbolt(!) in the transfer box, which happened when it got stuck in a stubble field in the winter. The guy that bought it is still using it, last time I saw it the clock had over 5000hrs on. I have a photo somewhere, I'll try to find it. RJS. |
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Post by Tellarian on Oct 30, 2002 22:25:57 GMT 1
Just to show that the cousins cant help but copy..... tructor.com/ |
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Post by eppie on Oct 31, 2002 19:14:32 GMT 1
The Trantor is quite ugly  I think i prefer an Unimog. It has more room for a tipper body, it looks ten times better, and it can reach higher speeds, i think. |
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Post by Woodbeef on Nov 1, 2002 0:23:46 GMT 1
Ya,but the Trantor is a completely different concept(Fast Tractor),and only about 1/2 the size of a Mog!
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Post by eppie on Nov 1, 2002 19:13:50 GMT 1
Ah..
Sorry, i mixed the trantor up with the tructor.
No room for a tipper body at all on a trantor.
I agree, a trantor is a totally different concept. The name is pulled together from the words "transport" and "tractor".
UniMoG comes from the German words Universal Motor Gerat, which means "universal motorised tool"
That says about everything.
The Trantor, as Richard_Sutton says, is just for light field work, and it has no room for a tipper body. The Mog can do some heavier tillage, but due to the suspension, no good for ploughing. It can work with front 3p hitch, and the view on front implements is just great.
The Trantor has a better view on rear mounted implements.
The size of a Mog gives it its stability at high road speeds. And i think that's worth quite something.
Besides, Mogs can be had in various body lengths.
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