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Post by Woodbeef on Oct 25, 2002 14:29:03 GMT 1
Looks like Mahindra&Mahindra of India are finally leaving their old IH licensee tractors behind and moving on. They have a new series out that is not too bad looking. The drivetrain was developed in conjunction with AVL of Austria. They also have a 85 hp tractor slated for early 2003 release,and are working on tractors of up to 125 hp. www.mahindrausa.comDo any of you guys get these tractors? |
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Post by Fred on Oct 25, 2002 14:53:48 GMT 1
Some of the models seem to retain the 8/2 sliding mesh tranny. Do you think the engine has been updated or remains as before? Could the update be due to emmisions regulations?
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Post by Woodbeef on Oct 25, 2002 15:48:41 GMT 1
OOpppssss........I forgot to mention which ones they were. They are the Arjun series,4500 to 6000.
Might be that they went this way for emissions. Also can not hurt their sales,to have new models out. They are also badge-engineering some TYM CUTs for the States.
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Post by kevanos on Oct 25, 2002 16:29:17 GMT 1
One thing I noticed that is different on the TYM-built models is that they use a Daedong engine. TYM tractors, and their US variants, Millenium & Scorpion, use Kubota and John Deere engines. I don't see the Arjun series listed anywhere on www.mahindrausa.com, but they are on www.mahindraworld.com site. |
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Post by Woodbeef on Oct 25, 2002 16:59:06 GMT 1
Hey Kevanos,
They are not calling them Arjun in the States. But if you click on the link for tractors with 3 year warranty,you'll see them on the US site.
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Post by kenjar on Oct 25, 2002 17:29:27 GMT 1
Yes the looks of the new models are much better than the old. They appear to be more ruggedly built, more built in weight. I like the fit and finish of the 4500-6000 better than the old 300-500 models. Some models also feature partial synchro trans versus the constant mesh. Noticed the 3 year warrranty, might be the AVL drivetrain and new engines are reasons for this. Have seen a 485 whose engine had disintegrated, happens to the best of morons.
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Post by eppie on Oct 25, 2002 20:54:23 GMT 1
Hey Kenjar and Woodbeef: Sure, those trannies are rugged and heavy !! I think i know them ;D AVL does not develope drivetrains, it used to do the updates on the old license built 5501 Zetor engines, built by HMT. And HMT was eaten by Mahindra Co. and is forming the daughter company "Mahindra Gujarat" That 8/2 tranny, and 8/8 one, are most probably the basic versions of the Zetor UR3 tranny.  Doesn't "early 2003" and "125 hp" sound somewhat familiar?? |
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Post by kenjar on Oct 26, 2002 16:52:11 GMT 1
Hi Renze,
Wasn't aware M&M had purchased HMT.
So Brno might be sharing some technology with M&M, through HMT? 125 hp, 2003, coincidence, maybe?
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Post by eppie on Oct 26, 2002 20:06:24 GMT 1
Ehhh.... It was 85 hp in 2003, and 125 hp in the future..  ..That's an example of the "selective usage of facts" like i spoke myself about  |
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Post by Woodbeef on Oct 27, 2002 0:37:31 GMT 1
Hey Renze,
Yep,typed the wrong kind of train!! AVL developes powertrains!!
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Post by eppie on Oct 27, 2002 12:13:40 GMT 1
Hey, wait a minute:
What is, according to you, the difference between powertrain and drivetrain?
I was thinking the tranny, rear axle, clutch housing together was called a powertrain, or drivetrain.
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Post by Woodbeef on Oct 27, 2002 13:47:33 GMT 1
Hey Renze,
Some people might argue that powertrain includes the engine,where as drivetrain does not.
Since AVL bills themselves as Powertrain specialists. They go on to say they are the worlds largest privately owned,independant company for the developement of powertrain systems with internal combustion engines....
I figured I'd change the gist of my post to reflect what they state about their company.
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Post by eppie on Oct 27, 2002 19:07:24 GMT 1
I guess AVL is a company with many know-how, working as a third party in the development of powertrains, just as the new Volvo D5 diesel (cars) is co-developed by Ricardo.
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