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Post by Xavier on Oct 17, 2002 19:18:11 GMT 1
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Post by Woodbeef on Oct 18, 2002 1:06:35 GMT 1
Hey X-man,
There is quite a market for twd tractors over here. Especialy to the flat-landers,that do not need a tractor to be a mfd one.
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Post by Red_Painter on Oct 18, 2002 1:12:12 GMT 1
Xavier, until the early 80's these kinds of tractors were common in America. Row crops did not make it easy to turn front wheel drive tractors (MFWD) so they would line up with the rows when cultivating or planting. Front wheel drive tractors (MFWD) were used in potato fields with wide rows and difficult pulling and on some 1950's and early 1960's tractors in the wheat growing areas. When John Deere came out with front wheel MFWD in the early 80's, front wheel drive on row crop tractors became popular. Now most tractors have a small turning radius and are very popular everywhere. Almost all American farmers have different tractors for specific uses and a buyer might want one for something like pulling a planter and use a Steiger or other heavy tractor for tillage. The smaller tractor would be probably be used in haying or other lighter applications. Most farmers nowadays would have MFWD, but the two wheel drive will work out fine in certain soils and topagraphy without the extra cost.
This makes me wondered how those Fendts with large front wheels turn. I would guess that the wheels can be set out farther than a row crop tractor with 30 inch rows, but it looks like they would have a big turning radius.
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Post by Woodbeef on Oct 18, 2002 13:26:38 GMT 1
Hey Red_Painter,
How's it going out in the Palouse?
Now please do not ask me to explain this phonomena,but I've heard :That certain larger mfd tractors actually turn shorter at wider tread settings.
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Post by Red_Painter on Oct 18, 2002 16:43:48 GMT 1
Woodbeef, I'm sure you're right on the Deere and CaseNH MFD's with the higher engine and slender profile and agco has the cast frame which was modified about ten years ago to allow turning front tires to get as close as possible to the tractor when turning. I like the look and the use of large wheels on the Fendt front. (IH had extra large front tires on the 1456 used here in the hills in the late 60's) Was just wondering if there were a large turning radius on them.
Things here on the Palouse are dry. Just finished seeding winter wheat. Had to use the articulated tractor for seeding. We were worried about wide tires hitting multiple hitch designed for crawlers (which are in the shop-one with completely new undercarriage should be good for many years) The articulated worked out fine. With multiple breakdowns this harvest we're hoping things go well the rest of the year. I used to like the old stuff, but would like to have some later machinery now especially since some friends have gone to later machines as prices of them are down. It will be dry plowing. Seems like on dry years the ground doesn't get as hard as normal (I hope).
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Post by eppie on Oct 21, 2002 9:42:38 GMT 1
Not many 2wd's here.
I doubt if someone has sold a new 100 hp 2wd this year in the Netherlands.
For us, our 50 hp 3 cyl 5245 has MFWD, and i dont want to miss it !! Very valuable for digging holes with the 3ph bucket, pushing the block cutter into the silage clamp, and i just cant do without it when pulling the 3 furrow plough.
Our contractor has a 20 year old Ursus 120 hp 2wd, it's used just for planting corn, and on the silage clamp if it's not too steep.
2wd's over 90 hp are rare here.
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