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Post by Jon B on Oct 13, 2002 1:30:50 GMT 1
How many tractors did Claas sell in Europe? How many tracked combines does Claas sell in Europe?
And how many Deere and Case tracked machines are there in Europe too? Is it popular?
In North America, they really are becoming the high hp tractor of choice. In particular, the Red River Valley, you see a lot of Quadtracs, but overall too, you see a lot of them, and once guys buy them, they don't go back.
So whats the story on the other side of the pond?
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Post by Bernhard on Oct 13, 2002 12:10:32 GMT 1
Hi,
In the 50' a lot of Tractor Brands had 1 Track in their Range, so as Deutz and Hanomag . The Reason was that weigth of a wheel Tractor was to high. In the eastern part of Germany there seem to be a few Claas or Steiger Tracks but I've only seen some at Exhibitions, never at work.
Bernhard, Derichsweiler, Germany
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Post by jose on Oct 13, 2002 13:44:30 GMT 1
in Spain to have enough tracks, Fiat coverall same and landini, are used for the olive culture and vine, these tractors are between 50 and 100 HP. and only seen 8410T in the construction of a highway with scraper
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Post by Woodbeef on Oct 13, 2002 14:32:57 GMT 1
Hey Bosman,
Rember hearing that Claas sold about 1000 Challengers in Europe.(if my pea-brain memory functions are working correctly this morning)
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Post by eppie on Oct 13, 2002 15:41:29 GMT 1
Zetor had a 2013 vineyard crawler in the 60's They also offered chain type halftracks, to mount around the rear wheels and a supplementary axle. (3016, 4016, 5516)
When the 7 series was introduced with better MFWD axles than the 3045, the halftracks were discontinued.
They are very rare, but i'd love to buy a Zetor Super P crawler, built from 1956-1958, preferrably with earth blade. (to spare my bucket and 5245 when pushing treestubs)
Deutz had the DK 75 and DK 100 crawlers, Lanz had some crawlers, and others too. I think the demand for crawlers in Europe was mostly due to the lack of proper tyres for big tractors.
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Post by kenjar on Oct 13, 2002 15:54:11 GMT 1
Hey Jon Bos, Woodbeef would be right.(that pea-brain still works) The September 2001 issue of Vision had an article on the 1,000th Challenger sold in Europe.
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Post by Bernhard on Oct 14, 2002 7:23:58 GMT 1
In the formally GDR the Tracks must be very common. In the 50' they built the "Urtrak" in the 70' and 80' there was a Derivate of the ZT 300 and 323, which had Tracks instead of Tires. I know about Combines with Tracks, but I never have seen one. Also Grimme has a selr-driven Potatoe-Digger in his Range, that ran on Tracks.
Bernhard, Derichsweiler, Germany
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Post by leemsutton on Oct 14, 2002 9:55:52 GMT 1
It is increasing in the UK as just this year I have seen 8 pop up within a 20 mile radius of our farm. Last year I did not know of one.
Funnily though they are all second hand and are always the tried and tested models ie challenger 65, 75 etc and most of the time they are the 'C' series.
Out of the 8 there are 2 in Claas colours, 5 in CAT colours and one JD 8400 T (although this one has had CAT tracks fitted to it as the JD track thread is to closely spaced for UK damp conditions).
I also know of 5 or 6 more farmers on the look out for them. At the end of the day if you can buy a 300+ hp crawler for £25,000 (8 yrs old, 6000 hours) then whats the point in spending over a £100,000 on a new wheeled tractor to do the same job! These CAT crawlers are good tried tested machines, an ddont have any fancy electronic engines management systems like the new ones have.
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Post by Bart VD on Oct 14, 2002 17:41:22 GMT 1
In Belgium have some contractors put tracks on there combine for harvestig mais, when they harvesting wheat the put again the tires on it. Tractors on tracks are only used for special use : harvesting tree's ,...
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