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Post by Woodbeef on Oct 6, 2002 1:58:57 GMT 1
O.K. now lets try this once again!!
I'm looking for heavy duty manure spreaders that will spead pen packed manure,and broiler/layer litter 15-20 m consistently,and run with a 80-100 pto hp tractor. Any ideas?
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Post by agcoman on Oct 7, 2002 15:43:20 GMT 1
try a knight speader if you can get them overseas. It throws it out the side 20 to 30 feet.www.Knight.com should have a website. hope this helps you.
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Post by Farmer from Finland on Oct 11, 2002 14:06:12 GMT 1
Hei WB. I discussed with three persons concerning your needs. As i told earlier,one Tebbe owner,one Bergmann owner and latest with salesman who sales Tebbe,his father is german and owns two big Tebbe spreaders.
My understanding is at this moment that,working widht 15-20 meter is OK.Those materials what you want handle are OK(i have seen all other in practice,except pen packed manure but i believe it's also OK
One problem could be 540 pto but according salesman maybe possible solve.
if you look Tebbe the model could be DS 80 os 140.
Latest, they said also that Tebbe have some spreaders already in Canada.
FFF
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Post by Woodbeef on Oct 11, 2002 16:02:06 GMT 1
Hey Triple F,
Thanks for the digging around.
I wonder if they have an importer over here for Tebbe?
Tebbe has not replied to my email as of yet. At least Agrostroj Pelhrimov did the next morning,and I had brochures in my hands by the end of the week!!
The big stickler is going to be the pto hp to run it on 540.
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Post by eppie on Oct 11, 2002 18:44:26 GMT 1
Heh-hey Woodbeef !! that's funny !! What's the impression of Pelhrimov to you ?? Does the brochure contains more info than the website?? I'm just curious.... Is your problem, that the tractor you have in mind to drive the spreader, has only 1000 rpm PTO ?? I think it will be not too hard to mount reduction gears on it. Maybe you could just change a set of chain wheels.
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Post by Woodbeef on Oct 11, 2002 21:15:42 GMT 1
Well guys.........I spoke too soon!! In today's mail was a Tebbe brochure in English from a dealer in Quebec.
How would I rate the two brands......Now I do not know the prices so that might make a difference. But I'd have to say Tebbe is the better more advanced machine from what I'm seeing. The two are pretty comprable in load size(Tebbe DS 80-AP RUR 55). The Tebbe excels in all of the working parameters also(but does need 20 more hp to do it,80 to 120 engine hp)and is rated to be towed at a higher speed. So I guess in the long run Triple F was correct in his statements on which is a better machine. We might add the spreader to our sales portfolio down the road(we already have truck and large trailer mounted ones made in B.C.)but I do not think we want to get into the hassels of being the importer!!
Renze what I'm looking for is a spreader system to add to our fleet. We have tractors from 80 to 215 pto hp. Hence my wanting for a 540 pto 80-100 pto hp spreader. I do not want someone to grab one of the bigger tractors(1000 pto) and hook up,and tear the spreader to pieces!!
Oh ya, Tebbe has much better brochures also......sorry Renze.
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Post by Jon B on Oct 12, 2002 1:48:10 GMT 1
Hey Woodbeef, you'll have to explain whether you are doing this through Ballagh Liquid Technologies, or through your own farm.
If it is your own farm, I'd get a Knight, Gehl Scavenger, or New Holland side throw slingers. They do the best wide spread job out there.
But if you are doing it through the company, then you are limited and you would have to look at European stuff, such as the Tebbe, or Joskin, or Pottinger.
My only worry with those spreaders is that the sides are fairly high - I doubt a skid-steer would be able to even load it, and that is an issue worth considering, because skid-steers are used in a lot of cases to load stuff up.
You know what an ideal situation would be - if the vertical spreaders work and catch on in Ontario, maybe Hagedorn (hydra spread) from Paisley, Ontario, would look into a prototype themselves
Just doing some thinking for ya Woodbeef
Jon Bos
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Post by eppie on Oct 12, 2002 12:22:37 GMT 1
Woodbeef, the RUR 55 is the economy / hill slope version, built for 40 years now. It was the most advanced spreader in that era, (the pioneer with wide spreading discs) but in 40 years, their development on different spreaders went on.
I was thinking the RUR 55 needed just 50 pto hp as a minimum. The RA-140 V needs 120 pto hp.
The hill slope model RUR 55 is low built, and can always be loaded by a skid steer.
For contract work, you should look at the RA-80 V or RA-100 V (8 and 10 ton load capacity) They have features like the V-shaped spinner deck, and the RA-140 V has also a weight compensating system.
I know, American Jawa, or Motokov Canada import just the small farmer's (hobby) model RUR 55, but there is more from Pelhrimov.
All Pelhrimov spreaders have standard 540 PTO speed. (but maybe not in N.A.)
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Post by Woodbeef on Oct 13, 2002 0:32:23 GMT 1
Hey Bosman,
How's it going way out west?
It is actually the guys I work for Wide Spread Agri Systems who would be looking at it. Ballagh is just a distributor we work with.
Yes,it would be nice if Hagedorn would do something in this type spreader.
Hey Renze,
The bigger AP's would probably work. I was just comparing the two smallest spreaders on the stats provided.
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Post by Farmer from Finland on Oct 14, 2002 5:35:19 GMT 1
Heips. JB recommended Gehl Scavenger for WB.It's simply machine,but it doesn't work well with dry materials. For wet it's OK. I have tried spread dry chick/turf manure using Gehl and also with local copie.Result is bad. Other thing is that Tebbe/Bergmann is faster.Those machines spread manure out much faster as Gehl.
Specially the starting the spreading with full box is complicated,the bottom schrew bush dry material towards to end and this moment it needs very much torque and also quick driver hands to avoid tractor stopping.The local copie what i have used also is equipped with hydraulically rotated bottom schrew,with this only hyrdaulic overpressure valve opened is this situation.
FFF
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