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Post by kevanos on Oct 3, 2002 16:12:10 GMT 1
Renze,
Thanks! I keep lists of info like that. I'm a complete tractor fanatic.
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Post by Bernhard on Oct 6, 2002 10:41:49 GMT 1
Whats about Farm-Trac? Have seen one in Poland on Thursday, looks like a JD but red and yellow, with cab of the 25HP Belarus.
Bernhard, Derichsweiler, Germany
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Post by Woodbeef on Oct 6, 2002 13:04:46 GMT 1
hey Bernhard,
Scoop us a picture if you could,sir? That sounds like one different looking tractor!!
The tractor company Farm-Trac which is now part of the Escorts group,was the Ford licensee for India. Only tractors I've ever seen with the F-T name on them were older series Fords(10,30,etc.....under 60 hp).
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Post by Bernhard on Oct 6, 2002 14:04:00 GMT 1
Hi Woodbeef,
now I know that Farm-Trac is Long, saw them at the net.
There was a picture of it long ago at a polnish website. Maybe I got the adress from Pudding, but I didn't remeber it. I believe it was a czech Traktor, but I'm also not sure in that!
Bernhard, Derichsweiler, Germany
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Post by Woodbeef on Oct 6, 2002 22:57:34 GMT 1
Hey Bernhard,
Yes, for the US Long does market the Farm-Trac brand,but only in the US. Escorts and Long formed a joint venture for these sales.
I've never seen or heard of the Farm-Trac brand being sold anywhere else besides India and the States.
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Post by Bernhard on Oct 7, 2002 6:46:10 GMT 1
Hi Woodbeef,
I try the search, but I don't find the Tractor, be patient, it maybe takes some time to find it. If tere is a JD-specialist around here,maybe he knew more and can help to find it. There was a side in NZ, lindalizard, I believe, but the Tractor-links there didn't exist no more.
Bernhard, Derichsweiler, Germany
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Post by kevanos on Oct 7, 2002 15:58:00 GMT 1
Bernard, Are you sure it wasn't a Farm-Mot that you saw? They are/were based on JD. Here's a picture... freepages.rural.rootsweb.com/~antrev/tracfmot.htm Farm-Mot is a division of Pol-Mot. Pol-Mot has a venture with Escorts of India and sell Escorts tractors in Poland, but I don't believe the FarmTrac is part of that. |
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Post by Fred on Oct 7, 2002 17:45:07 GMT 1
Hey Kevanos there are a couple of badge engineer jobs you don't know then:)
Shibora - Ford
Someca - Fiat
Someca - Laverda
Fiat bought French manufacturer Someca, which itself came from Map. Someca was something to do with Simca.1970's Fiats were labled Someca. I don't know the link with Laverda, except Laverda also Italian. I have only seen Someca combines from the 1970's.
Hope that helps with the other thread question.
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Post by eppie on Oct 8, 2002 19:41:20 GMT 1
To extend this thread to cars:
I understand fromit that:
Someca = Simca (there is one buried around here)
Simca became Talbot under Peugeot
Talbot became Seat under Fiat
And then Seat was sold to Volkswagen
So this means the car division was also in Fiat hands for some time ??
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Post by Bernhard on Oct 8, 2002 20:45:25 GMT 1
Hi, kevanos
You're right, it was the Farm-Mot, found the same page like You. I've seen it in the net a time ago, when I try search for a Tarpan-Honker. This is a polnish 4wd, I'd like to own. The Farm-Mot has nothing to do with Farm-Trac I believe.
Bernhard, Derichsweiler, Germany
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Post by kevanos on Oct 9, 2002 17:37:33 GMT 1
I did forget the Sbibaura rebadges...
DaeDong - Daenong, LandPower, Farm Tanakaya
Shibaura - New Holland, Ford, Ransomes, Yanmar
Satoh - Kumiai
Of interest are the names under which the Chinese tractors are sold... there are many, and I know this isn't complete and may have mistakes.
Benye - Allied, Champ, DanCat, Hercules, Kama, Joshua Howard, Sparber
DongFeng - Avenger, Changchai, Eagle, East Wind
FengShou - Harvest, Lenar, Task Master, Terra-Cyclone, TigerTrac, Vollerup Trac2r, Walter Barrett
Futian Oubao - Eagle, Hubei, Josua Howard, Kama, King, Terra-Cyclone, Zhongyuan
Jiangsu - Hardy, McConnell-Marc, Task Master
Jinma - Ag-Boss, Agracat, Bolton, CDHL, Deljen, Farm Boss, Farm Champ, Iron Horse, Joshua Howard, Kodiak, Lyntrac, McConnell-Marc, Nellie Belle, NorTrac, Rebl, SamTrac, Siromer, Sparber, Sport Diesel, Task Master, Tractor King, Turf Champ, WorkHorse, WorkTrak, Yangcheng
NanYue - Task Master
Shanghai - Joshua Howard, Kodiak, Rhino, Rhino International, S-Tec
Shenniu - Avenger, Bison, Diesel Ox, Joshua Howard, Task Master, Tratoretto
Tianjin Tieniu - Avenger, Buddy, John Deere Tiantuo, King
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Post by New Hollander on Oct 9, 2002 18:14:11 GMT 1
The list still isn't complete yet:
Kubota -> New Holland (NH HFT in Japan)
Landini -> Iseki
Shibaura -> Mitsubishi
Fiat -> Tumosan
Ford -> County
County -> Ford(8100)
Ford -> Roadless
NH -> SEM HSH140
Fiat -> Ford
Lamborghini -> Ford(5010/6010 N)
Farmtrac is also being sold in Australia, NZ and South Africa
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Post by Fred on Oct 9, 2002 19:29:22 GMT 1
I've never before thought of County and Roadless as being badge engineering due to the four wheel drive addition but if this type is included then we also need:
Muir Hill - Ford
Farm tractor Drives - Ford
Doe - Ford
Four wheel traction - leyland, Massey, Ford
Chaside - Ford
Matbro - Ford
Bray - Nuffied, Leyland
All of these used existing base units to create four wheel drive/front wheel assist tractors under their own name and numbering system. Roadless also did four wheel versions of Leyland and International tractors but retained the original manufacturers name and number system. So definitely not badge engineer in my mind. Anyone got some more?
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