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Post by eppie on Oct 1, 2002 13:19:09 GMT 1
I cant remember all those rebadge practices.
Let's make a complete list:
Oliver Lamborghini and Hurlimann rebadge Same.
McCormick rebadges Landini (and Case but not really)
John deere - Carraro, Renault Zetor
White - oliver - allis
Iseki - agco/MF
MF - White
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Post by jose on Oct 1, 2002 17:32:12 GMT 1
john deere - goldoni
ebro- massey
steyr-case
barreiros-hanomag
fiat-someca
new holland -bulher
same-deutz-lamborghini-hurliman
dutz-deutz allis
;D
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Post by eppie on Oct 1, 2002 19:39:43 GMT 1
I am hoping somebody names a rebadged tractor i havent heard yet...
The Barreiros was new to me
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Post by Bernhard on Oct 1, 2002 20:05:23 GMT 1
Mahindra the older McCormick Long-Ford Türktraktör-Fiat or Steyr, am not sure about this, Tafe-Ferguson. Ursus-Ferguson and Zetor older Universal-Fiat, best way:Take a look at www.agmachine.comand You will find a lot of rebadged Tractors. Bernhard, Derichsweiler, Germany |
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Post by eppie on Oct 1, 2002 20:30:07 GMT 1
Long - Ursus/Zetor (this is complex, It is a license built Zetor, built by Ursus, rebadged as long)
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Post by Woodbeef on Oct 1, 2002 23:23:05 GMT 1
Here are a few more:
Long-Nuffield/Leyland,Landini,Zetor,UTB,TYM,Escorts
A/C-Fiat,UTB
MF-Landini
Marshall-Steyr
Steyr-Valmet,MF
Valmet-MF
Valtra-Carraro
A/A-Same
White-Fiat,Iseki,Lamborghini
Oliver/Cockshutt/Minneapolis Moline-Fiat
Co-Op Implements- VolvoBM,Deutz-Fahr
Now if the parent company also owns the other brands using the same platform,I guess it is not really badge-engineering now is it?
Also lets not confuse licensed manufacturing rights with badge-engineering.
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Post by kenjar on Oct 2, 2002 3:02:39 GMT 1
A few more. AC- Steiger, Renault, Toyosha Deere-Yanmar MF-MM,Oliver,Toyosha,Iseki Ford-Steiger,ISM MM-Oliver,Fiat Oliver-David Brown Fiat-Versatile  |
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Post by Bernhard on Oct 2, 2002 7:26:27 GMT 1
Renault (R 7301)-Allis-Calmers (One-Sixty)
Bernhard,Derichsweiler, Germany
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Post by Ghina on Oct 2, 2002 11:47:24 GMT 1
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Post by Friedhelm on Oct 2, 2002 12:31:06 GMT 1
Hmm, what is rebadging?
Complet tractor or also Engine, Gearbox from another brand?
Example:
Renault gets Gearbox from GIMA (Renault owns a part of that company. AGCO owns the biggest part) , Engine JD Powersystems.
MF 8200 - Engines from Sisu (Part of former Valtra Owner Partek)
Complete Rebadging in my Opion is a almost complete Tractor in different colors:
MF - White
Renault - JD small ones
Same - Deutz
Same - MF
MF - Fendt (Combines)
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Post by Woodbeef on Oct 2, 2002 14:24:26 GMT 1
Badge-engineering means: When another company buys an already existing tractor model from the manufacturer,and paints it their colors and puts their name on it.
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Post by kevanos on Oct 2, 2002 15:48:54 GMT 1
I'll try not to duplicate any...
AGCO - Iseki/MF
Agrale - Deutz
Agrifull - Fiat
Agtor - Zetor/some 4WD from South America (Mancini?)
Allis Chalmers - Steiger/Hinomoto/Universal
Bolens - Iseki
Case IH - Tong Yang
Challenger (AGCO) - Iseki/MF/Gleaner (combine)
Cockshutt - Allis Chalmers
Co-op Implements - Steiger
Cub Cadet - Mitsubishi
DaeDong - Ford/Deutz-Fahr/Fiat/New Holland (licensed)
Deutz-Allis - Hinomoto
DongFangHong - Fiat (licensed)
Fiat - Versatile
Ford - Steiger/Waltanna
Goldstar - Fiat/Mitsubishi
Hema - Ford
Hesston - Fiat
HMT - Zetor (licensed)
IMT - MF (licensed)
International - Steiger / Acremaster
IsBora - Shibaura
Iseki - Porsche
ITMCO - MF (licensed)
John Deere - Kukje/Wagner/Yanmar
Landini - Iseki
Leda - LTZ
LG - Fiat/New Holland
Lindner - Steyr
Luoyang - Fiat (licensed)
Mahindra - Tong Yang
MF - Hinomoto/McConnell
Mathis Molins - Minneapolis Moline
Minneapolis Moline - Avery
Nibbi - Tong Yang
OM - Fiat
Pronar - MTZ/ZTS
RABA - Steiger (licensed)
Renault - Carraro
Saktraktori - Goldoni (licensed)
Same - White
Satoh - David Brown
Simplicity - AGCO/Agco Allis/Deutz-Allis/Allis-Chalmers/Homelite
SLC-John Deere - John Deere (licensed, now wholly owned)
Sonalika - Renault (licensed)
Tafe - LG
Tianjin - John Deere (licensed)
Tong Yang - Same (licensed)
Valpadana - Yagmur
Vandel - Steiger (licensed)
VST (Eurotrac VST/Mitsubishi-Shakti) - Mitsubishi (licensed)
Yagmur - Valpadana (licensed)
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Post by eppie on Oct 2, 2002 19:47:24 GMT 1
That's quite a list, Kevanos !!
How don you know all those names ??
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Post by F6L913 on Oct 2, 2002 21:41:02 GMT 1
Hey Friedhelm,
Something is wrong in your post. You say:
Complete Rebadging in my Opion is a almost complete Tractor in different colors:
Why you put Same-Deutz?
I think there's something more differnt than colour between Same and Deutz.
Deutz use Deutz engines and Same, Same engines.
Only the Agroplus, Agrolux and Agrotron 200 use same gearbox, the rest of agrotrons use ZF.
About MF and Fendt combines, the difference is the engine too.
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Post by Friedhelm on Oct 3, 2002 13:02:20 GMT 1
You are right about that,but that is my question. To Change the engine on a machine makes it a complete new tractor/combine?
If you change some switches also?
I do not want to start a war between brands.
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