About Valtra and the shiftless tranny.....

[Woodbeef]

Duh....am I ever stupid or what!!!

Of course Valtra has been involved with a CVT. The S-matic uses a Sisu engine. So this means that Valmet started on the testing of them years ago along with Steyr.

[Farmer from Finland]

hei WB.
Yeah This cooperation between Valtra(Valmet) and Steyr started about 10 years ago.
Let see what happened.
One possibility this moment is that CNH replace Sisu engines with this new NEF engine(IVECO/CUMMINS)

By the way my understanding of IVECO engines is:

they have under 8 liter volum three different series at this moment
Traditional IVECO(FIAT) engines
FORD based serie (IVECOAIFO)
Third is this new NEF where some are common rail or something else high pressure equipped.

I visited one exhibition and there were all three series.
I surpriced when i looked 3,9 liter NEF engine,they promised about 170 hp with 2500 r/min,and when i asked this the salesman said that marine version could push out over 200 hp.

let see what is future it seems that power/volum relation is growing anyway.

FFF

[Fred]

Woodbeef an 3F
Maybe this info I read in the Irish farmers Journal may enlighten you both!

TEXT
In answering a question about a possible Valtra tractor with a CVT-type transmission, Hakala confirms that Valtra is easily capable of moving in this direction.

"We were involved with cold-climate testing of the S-matic system for Steyr (now ZF Steyr)," he said.

"We found that CVT transmissions do not work as well in colder climates, and when you consider that Nordic areas form a very important part of our tractor business we have to get it right.

"I can confirm that we are very close to a solution, and see possibilities to use such a transmission in the future."

In the meantime, he suggests that Valtra has done very well with the three-stage powershift, but that work continues in this area, and it is possible that more powershift changes could be included at some point.

"We believe that there will be a place for CVT-type transmissions in the future," said Hakala.

It remains to be seen whether Valtra could at some point offer tractors under 60hp. The firm currently offers Carraro-badged tractors to the Italian market.

Hakala confirms that there are no immediate plans to bring them to the UK or Ireland, as the main target is the higher horsepower sector.

"This will continue to be the case," he said. "If we need tractors under 60hp then we do have a few ideas, but anything we do is likely to be in conjunction with another manufacturer."

Future strategy
So is Valtra going to stick just to tractors or does it have ambitions to become the AGCO of Scandinavia, supplying various machines?

According to deputy chairman and CEO Antti Herlin of the Kone Corporation (which owns Partek and Valtra), the next step is to take a very good look at the Valtra strategy.

"It is too early to talk about that at present," he said.

Woodbeef, maybe a CVT is unsuitable for feeding hay out in those cold Canadian Winters. You'll have to wait a bit for a new loader tractor, or keep the Steyr for winter work only:)

[Farmer from Finland]

It's true that cold climate create some problems with machines.
those problems consist also power-Shift gearboxes.
As i know if the temperature does'nt be lower -20 then they work.
Also is true that many contractor are driving in colder temperatures.

There could also be little bit worry that competitors take markets with CVT:s before Valtra is ready.Therefore mr Hakala speak what speak.

fff