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Post by eppie on Sept 30, 2002 19:34:54 GMT 1
So the fins were fighting Stalin instead of Hitler.
Me thinks you would not know of it, if Valmet was not involved. You sure are a redneck. ;D
I suppose FFF wasn't there in 1939-1940, so this is no excuse for him.
And i didn't started the downward spiral, FFF said something that is not true (not true in this particular case) and when i pointed that out in a controversial humorous way, he started shouting "You dont know me, leave me alone" i guess he was just stirring things up, to see what happens.
I wont take the blame, and will no longer lick both your asses, to keep the peace in here. FFF was getting hot headed first. he should grow up, not reacting childish if i doubt the integrity of his opinion. He could just throw arguments against my opinion, or even laugh at me.
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Post by orange on Sept 30, 2002 21:36:02 GMT 1
Anyway, Tebbe manure spreaders!!!!!!!!!!
Please!
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Post by Woodbeef on Sept 30, 2002 21:36:07 GMT 1
Hey Renze,
I think the word you're looking for is "kiss" not lick!!
I stand on my aforementioned comments.
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Post by eppie on Sept 30, 2002 21:54:45 GMT 1
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Post by Farmer from Finland on Oct 1, 2002 8:31:58 GMT 1
Renze and WB.As i understood you both are partially right concerning our history.
Our fathers figted first against Stalin,little break,then against Stalin with germans,latest against germans.
But this haven't nothing connection with Tebbe.
Also when i started try stop this political way only target were stay in machines.Unfortunately i made misstakes.
This don't have any relation to selfconfidence or....
Renze,when i looked your water systems the reason for impression were the size of this project,only compare what could do is in middle Finland and in Netherland the scale is really something else.
Hopefully,you Renze,understand that sometimes when you use all your possibilities with your language tools then i loose the point what ever it is.
I said that i'm sorry,normally it helps....
Best regards and back to machines
FFF
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Post by Bernhard on Oct 1, 2002 8:52:32 GMT 1
Hi Woodbeef,
what do You want to know about the Tebbe-Spreader?
I know Tebbe only as a Manufacturer of Trailers.
Maybe the Equipment of the formally eastern block is looking oldfashioned, but I believe the Manure is intreted in this. The polnish, czech and other Farmers in this Countries do there work with that kind off Stuff. And it works.
So if You need a Translation of the Tebbe-Site, let me know.
Bernhard, Derichsweiler, Germany
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Post by Bernhard on Oct 1, 2002 9:00:05 GMT 1
The HKS 100 reminds me at the Spreader, formally built by "Fortschritt" in the GDR, I believe their Spreader was named also, lokked like that, but it was pulled in the Hitch.
Bernhard, Derichsweiler, Germany
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Post by Bernhard on Oct 1, 2002 9:00:31 GMT 1
The HKS 100 reminds me at the Spreader, formally built by "Fortschritt" in the GDR, I believe their Spreader was named also, lokked like that, but it was pulled in the Hitch.
Bernhard, Derichsweiler, Germany
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Post by eppie on Oct 1, 2002 12:02:59 GMT 1
FFF: let's be friends again. We were both having a different impression of each other's comments.
Now we better stop talking about sh*t, and continue about the spreaders of this substance.
And, i made a big smile when reading Bernhard's comments....
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Post by Bernhard on Oct 1, 2002 19:49:40 GMT 1
sorry, but my computer and my keyboard don't like me  . Therefor the lot of mistakes. I can't understand, why somebody is hitting at the east-european stuff. Sure they made some junk in the past. but what kind of material get they to built something. The machines for the west european market had been not the same like for the homemarket. I've not the money for new equipment, so I buy used. If I get a Zetor, Belarus, Ursus or whatelse at a good price, why not? Take only a look at the selfbuilde tractors in the formally eastern-block an You will be surprised. Bernhard, Dericsweiler, Germany |
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Post by b on Oct 1, 2002 19:53:37 GMT 1
Hi Renze,
where can I find pictures of the JD 2000 series? Why are the built at Zetor?
Bernhard, Derichsweiler, Germany
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Post by eppie on Oct 1, 2002 20:24:18 GMT 1
Hi Bernard, For a JD 2800 based on the Zetor UR3, look at the post on this forum, called "green&yellow Zetors" For an official press release by Deere&co. and a picture of smaller ones like 2400, based on the UR1, look at www.zetorworld.com/licensees.htmlAnd if you ask me why they are built by Zetor, you should know that i am about grown into the chair of a 4712, so my opinion might be influenced by brand loyalty   Zetor builds a line of tractors, which do not drink and smoke, and are reliable too. To be shortly, they are the ideal son-in-law, my mother would say. Other manufacturers like Agco, say in South american marketing ads, that the rear ends are purpose designed for the heavy conditions of operation in these countries. A standard Zetor already has the strength these conditions demand. So this was the best move for Deere to serve their South- and Latin american, and eastern European customers. And Zetor's development costs are spread over more than 1 million tractors. If Deere wanted to develope something on their own just for these markets, with comparable quality, they could never beat Zetor on price. |
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Post by Bernhard on Oct 1, 2002 22:35:06 GMT 1
If the Tractors are not built in the czech republic or Poland You're rigth.
Bernhard, Derichsweiler, Germany
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Post by Farmer from Finland on Oct 2, 2002 10:16:56 GMT 1
Friends,hate is uncorrect word when you are speaking my relation to those machines manufactured in 'east' Countries.Different thing is are they best choice in every case.If you have looked what i said about Zetor 8540,i my view is maybe more critical as pleased.But remember i could work with it and as i said it works.I dont hate it.
Same situation is with spreaders.If farm is small,transporattion distances short and you dont have anything special materials like,very dry and light chicken manure mixed with light peat or smething else,then is easy understand that choise cheap machine like Belarus,Agrostroi etc..
But if you have sopposite situation,loag distances(50 km/hour needed by tractor and brakes),dry and wet material,absolytely necessary keep roads clean etc.
And also long working period because of big amount of material.After taht you want also pread all different material so that preading quality is good.
Coul you understand that then the choise is Tebbe,Bergmann etc.
Tebbe is really making spreaders.
Couls somebody now understand that there is'nt any cold war befind this.?
FFF
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Post by kevanos on Oct 2, 2002 15:53:05 GMT 1
Bernard, Why are you still just a "guest" in this forum? You should be a member...
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. Therefor the lot of mistakes. I can't understand, why somebody is hitting at the east-european stuff. Sure they made some junk in the past. but what kind of material get they to built something. The machines for the west european market had been not the same like for the homemarket. I've not the money for new equipment, so I buy used. If I get a Zetor, Belarus, Ursus or whatelse at a good price, why not? Take only a look at the selfbuilde tractors in the formally eastern-block an You will be surprised.
