Tebbe manure spreaders???

[Woodbeef]

Anyone have any first hand knowlege of these machines? They look very impressive!! Only problem is I have enough of a problem with English let alone German!! www.tebbe-landmaschinen.de Even www.tebbe.co.uk is in German!!

[orange]

Hey Woodbeef try this translation tool it is not brilliant but you do get the general idea www.translate.ru/eng/srvurl.asp
good luck

[Woodbeef]

Hey Orange,

Thanks for the info,I'll give it a whirl!!

[eppie]

Woodbeef, try Agrostroj Pelhrimov. They are the inventors of the principle.
They are making the wide spreading universal spreaders for more than 40 years !!

www.agrostroj.cz/english/zemedel3.html

P.S. It's not necessary to buy an agrostroj with a Zetor as a pair, but it would look good...
How about a 7341 Super with RA 80-V ?? (and Humpolec loader)

[Farmer from Finland]

Hey WB don't disturb Renzes old 'east stuff' marketing.
As Renze said mentioned company have made long time machines,unfortunately their design and operation is also from those days.

What you want know about Tebbe?Another manufacturer is Bergmann also their web sites are this moment out of use.

I know owner for both spreaders Tebbe and Bergmann my understanding is that both are good machines.
Ask,i could try also give some answer,naturally there could be some owners also in this site.

FFF

[eppie]

FFF:

You are confusing two things: Style and Fashion.
I would say, Pelhrimov with their features as the V-shaped spinner deck, is the premium spreader brand.

What about this text from their website:

"The production programme comprises own final machines (26%), tool engineering (13%) and co-operation projects with reputable transnational corporations in the field of agricultural machinery (CLAAS, KRONE, PÖTTINGER) and with producers of lorries, building machines and fork lifters (DAF, VOLVO, JUNGHEINRICH). Completed assemblies within our co-operation projects amount to 61% of the volume of our production."

Pelhrimov machines are rebadged as Claas. So, they are as old fashioned as Claas is.

FFF, you should put away those ideas from the cold war period out of your mind: No need to bash the former enemies, they are your friends now. Some countries even joined the NATO....

[Farmer from Finland]

Renze,pls don't mix politics to this discussion.Also NATO discussion is necessary handle in some other forum.
I don't have anymies at all.
You don't know my experience and background handle technical things.If you have needs push me really,because of my opinions of machines pls.send personal mail,there i maybe could say something about NATO or our backgrond,not here.
Also i don't have any needs to push eastern countries or their machines down.Simply thing is that those machines are little bit oldfashion at this moment.

I'm sorry if i hurt you,i visited Netherland last summer and i looked your waterhandlingsystems against to Ocean,they are really impressive.

Best Regards FFF

[eppie]

You havent hurted me at all.

I just brought up my arguments against yours, and brought up the political background, and predjudice where your opinion is based on. You should never generalise things. There are enough manufacturers in the former east which are really old fashioned, or to say it correctly; producing low-budget machinery.
But there are also some technological leaders in their branche out there.

I just want to say: Not all Deere tractors are good (5000 series) and not all Eastern European machinery is old fashioned (Pelhrimov spreaders)
Life isn't as easy as you want. Generalising is a way to simplify complex subjects.

You have my e-mail adress. if you want to discuss the things you mentioned, NATO and our background, mail me and just say what you want.


I have visited the so-called "Delta works" about two or three times. I agree, it's impressive. But the technique is quite simple, it is done before, but not in this application and size.

By the way: arent the Delta works something to discuss via e-mail ?

[Farmer from Finland]

Renze,i'm really sorry as i said something that you hurt.

But still your idea that my opinions of machines from Russia or Check or others are based to politicks is your own.And false.

I really don't want continue discussion like this,you have created missunderstandings.If you continue the attack,easiest way for me is stop totally.I don't want war.NATO is too much for me.

FFF

[eppie]

Hey, dont take this personal !!!

You are defending yourself now, instead of defending your opinion. I can't help it when you misunderstand me, this is no attack.

But you're right, i shouldn't broaden this classic discussion to it's psychological grounds and motives, if that's becoming too much for you.

Sorry, nothing personal. I wont bother you again with anything apart from tractors.

Greetings from Renze.

[Woodbeef]

Hey,hey,hey.........now guys.....

Whoa let's stop and take a long deep breath,now eh!!

Renze,I do believe that you started this downward sprial,when you mistook what TripleF had to say about the former ComBloc manufacturers. No where in his posts does he bring up politics or national security issues,now does he? From what I see he was only stating what is known world-wide about most machinery from Eastern Europe. It is of older,lower tech,but heavily built designs. Then Triple F went on to say that the other two are of newer technology(alebit Western Euro),and that's about all!! What you read into this I do not know.......but I sure did not see what you did!!


Renze,ol buddy I'm not picking on you,just pointing out some facts that I think you missed. It is easy for one of your youth and intelligence to over anylize things to much too great of an extent. Often you read things between the lines that just do not exist.

Oh ya,one more thing.....I am a REDNECK and damn proud of it too!!!

[Farmer from Finland]

WB it seems that you understand the point.
When i'm speaking east machines 'stuff' were misstake,i really don't have any political aspect or hate to people from other countries.
This term east machine is according the map,so that mentioned countries WERE in other block.
Also Zetor dealers have used this.That doesn't any connection to quality or other else.
I'm still sorry,i had'nt any idea that somebody create this political connection.

It seems that renze knows something about our history,it's good.Normally in EU nobody doesn't know the location of Finland.

FFF

[Woodbeef]

Hey Triple F,

I agree totally with you my friend!!

Let's not bring up past history. Sides were chosen by needs,not popularity(the Winter War)!!

[eppie]

Hey guys, let me explain:

FFF took "mentioned company" into the generalisation of former eastblock produced machinery. That's what i "was seeing" in it, according to your expression.

It is commonly known, that the average Joe has/had the simplified "west is good, east is bad" idea. I meant the written words to make a charicature of this. (is that word spelled right???)

Maybe i shouldn't come up with my controversial humor too often. I dont mean it so bad, it just happens to be that i am that way, suspicious and controversial.
I'm not gonna tell you more personal details.... (that tongue is suspicious, dont you think??)

From what i think to remember right now: Finland was victim-offered in the beginning of WW2. the other countries, later forming the Nato, was hoping that when they let Hitler take Finland (and Poland) with it's resources like steel, coal or oil, they would stay out of trouble, and just stood there, watched, let it happen while the Finns were fighting a mortal battle against the Nazis. I didn't realise this when i mentioned Nato here.
Is that what you meant, FFF ? Or am i bringing up something new into the discussion

By the way: about the Delta works, are you comparing the Dutch struggle to keep out the sea, with the Finnish struggle to keep out the Commies?? If you were, didn't realise that.

As you, WB and FFF, can see, i didn't read out of my own words what FFF was reading out of it.


Woodbeef: speaking of rednecks, you defend yourself before you are beaten .... CONTROVERSE..... ;D

[Woodbeef]

Hey Renze,

Me thinks you better go back and re-digest your history books a tad bit. The Finns were fighting a different opponent than you think. Check into war reparations while you are at it too...it's what led to Valmet!!

As for me being a "REDNECK"......I think you need to go back and re-define that term also. Quite possibly you are mistaking it for something else,somewhere else!! What do I need defence for?