New Forterra at dealers with facelifted nose.

[eppie]

Our dealer has the new Forterra models.
The nose is redesigned, so that the front view will be more alike the Super series. Both Zetor series now have the same family design looks.

www.rietmanhasselt.nl/ZETOR%20Forterra.htm
Look at the price of the 11441 : 41,300 Euro. That's a whole lot of tractor for that money !!

The new series will still be the 6 series, and not 7 series as earlier messages said. So, the models will be 8641, 9641, 10641, 11441, 11741.

More info on Zetor Brno a.s. website:

www.zetor.cz/tab-forterra.html

[kenjar]

How's things at Steernbos Renze,

Saw those pics yesterday, was looking up some URIIs at Reitmans.
This months Profi has a pic of a 10641 in it from the Royal Show. Zetor still is talking about offering higher horsepower models to fill the gap left by the old URII series.
Any news about a merger between them and ZTS?
Zetor may have to build the larger models in house.
Is the 5243 getting upgraded also? The Major has the new nose job too.

[eppie]

Things are fine around here.
Just saw on text TV, that we have two more weeks to spread manure on the land. This is because of the rain we had last weeks. We are not allowed to spread manure during winter.

I will be done clean out the yard. bihind the sheds we had loads of trash around. My both brothers went out of hous the last 3 years, living on their own, so, i'm the boss now. I burned few truckloads full of rubbish, and brought about 25 tonnes of scrap iron to the scrap trader in Zwolle, about 15 km away. It's next to my school, so i can bring it away before i go to school, in the same drive. The last 5 tonnes i moved away, they payd me about 200 Euro for. That's nice money.
Iron about 5 Eurocents a kilo. Non ferrous metal pays about 50 Eurocents per kilo, alumina about 20 cents.
Last year, we scrapped 3 old Ferguson 35 tractors, one old little fiat car, and a wrecked Mercedes of my brother.

Our concrete stable manure silo is ready, so the last remains of shit in the corner of the land will disappear soon. I want to sow grass and make a fence around that piece of land, before one of my brothers get the idea to put their trash there again.

The Zetor website still shows the pictures of old model Forterras. I think the narrow models will be taken into pruduction within one or two months, and they update the pics on the site in one.

The 5243 builds on old technology. The dashboard could be from the 9 series, all metal. I think they hung the 5201 T engine in it, and changed the gear selector lever, the rest of the technology seems to be from late seventies. I think they will reinforce the tranny, and offer 4 cyl models too, narrow models do lots of PTO tillage with power harrows and such.

Still a Lambo engine in the 11741, unfortunately. I want to see a Zetor engine in it. They have the technology, but not the full application for a six cylinder engine, i think. I think the heavier tractors will build on a new platform, and not on the UR3 platform like the Forterra. I think we see a Zetor six cylinder appear together with a higher power UR 5 or so.

[Woodbeef]

Hey Mr. Zetor

I stopped by my local Zetor dealer today to see about the new Forterras. They called Toronto to see what they had to say. It looks like December if we are lucky over here. No brochures yet either. I'll check next month at the Outdoor Farm Show.

[eppie]

Just as i had thought: They try them in Europe first, and few months later, they come to your side of the pond. Probably because they want to check if they are o.k. in practice, and N.A. homologation.


Will you guys get the 11741 with Lambo engine? The 11741 has that seven, because it has now 120 hp instead of 110-115. And the tranny on 114 and 117 is a heavier one.

That 10641 was at Rietman's for demo. They will get their first sold 11441 within a few weeks.


What do you think of the nose job? I think it gives more style distance to others than the first design.

[kenjar]

Renze,
It appears you have had a busy summer.
I don't look for any new Forterras here in the states till the first part of next year, our friends to the north usually get them sooner.
The new models also carry a bit higher price. At Praneda they show a 116.41 for 40.100 euros(current model), don't know how well it is equiped at that price. All in all very affordable compared to some of the other brands. Praneda doesn't list prices for ZTS, wonder what price ranges they come in.
I think the 114 will be our top model, don't look for any 117s making it to our shores. Not much hp difference between the 114 and 117, both show the same lbs of torque.
I like the looks of the present model but the new one looks fine as well.

[Woodbeef]

Hey Kenjar,

Yep I think you are right on what we'll see over here. probably the 4 cylinders only. they said that the 10641 will be trhe first to arrive.

Hey Mr.Zetor,

What's the view from the seat look like over the front end compared to the old style?

[eppie]

Woodbeef:

I got an e-mail from Wout Rietman, he said the 10641 was already moved for demo to Belgium, but he had the opportunity to take the pictures which are up the site first. I havent seen it in real life, but according to the sloping nose, i suppose the view of front implements will be a lot better now.

Kenjar: Price for a 16245 model '98 used to be 98,000 guilders, about 44,470 Euro. I thought the 122 was about 93,000 and the 142 about 96000 guilders.

After the takeover by HTC, dealers noticed that the quality was getting much better, because the workers and the management were given new hope. During the depression, the guys at Brno didn't took the care they were supposed to.

I am curious how the ride is with heavy tillage implements, the torque of the 11441 sounds pretty impressive to me.


Motokov sold Praneda to HTC, too. They stopped with Hurlimann and have to focus purely on Zetor. Zetor is back in the race, and we can see it is driven by strong leadership of HTC.
Dont know what about ZTS, but maybe they merge soon. Rumors were, that ZTS was nearly bankrupt last year. Since HTC owns Povaszke Strojarne, the plant where ZTS lets their trannies be built, it would be easy for them to let ZTS bleed to death and then eat them cheap.

[kenjar]

Renze, for 3000 more Euros I can have a 162. Wonder which I would choose?

Woodbeef,
You going to the Outdoor Show next week? Inform us on the new stuff. That looks to be a nice big show.
www.outdoorfarmshow.com
Say does Zetor have a website in Canada?

[eppie]

Kenjar:

If you would equal the options on both, the difference will be much bigger. The 16245 lacks : external hydraulic valves, silent cab, the third powershift step, the shuttle reverser, and some more things.

www.motokov.ca is under construction.

[Woodbeef]

Hey Kenjar,

Yep I'll be there for two days at least. Our distributor has a regular booth,and one set-up in the OMAF tent in the Manure-Management area. So I guess I'll be in one of them. But I will wander the show every chance I get!! I'll let you know what I find.

[kenjar]

According from my scource at AmJawa we will also be getting the new models in December. A new series of loaders for them as well, apparently the current model won't interchange with the new.
Talk of a 117hp model to follow shortly and maybe within 2 years a 130hp model.

Woodbeef,
This Manure-Management display, ah, does it include a shovel?

[Woodbeef]

Hey Kenjar,

Naw,we flog manure separators.

I do believe the Canadian Zetor site is www.motokov.ca

[eppie]

Guys,

Over here, the 11641 will be sold with old nose till late this year. Then, it will be replaced by the 11741. The 130 hp 12741 will follow early 2003.

Maybe the 117 and 127 will have the long awaited Zetor 6 cylinder !! I certainly hope so.. (but you knew that)

[kenjar]

Renze,
We will get the 11441 as our top model. The Zetor US folks don't think much of the Lambo engine,just one reason they haven't sent any 11641s here.
Wonder why Zetor went with the Lamborghini six?
Couldn't they have used the Martin engine?
Your wish for the six may come true.