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Post by pudding on Sept 16, 2002 4:30:17 GMT 1
hey there, every day i get emails about tractors from my website, some i can answer, some i can't as DSL and woodbeef know.....they help me.......i have a lot of stuff on tractors on my site......but i am no real techie! this one here is got me puzzled, and help this is from someone with a SAME dorado 75, i am not familiar with this model, and it has been a long time since i last worked on a SAME, so can anyone help me answer the question? we have just serviced the bosch injector from this tractor and we have been adviced that there is no leakoff pipe on this injector and that the leakoff is blanked off by Same. bosch list a leakoff screw for this injector but `Same' say that it can not be and should not be fitted. as we never see the tractors only the injector we are very interested to know just how this works. never heard of an injector without a leakoff. bosch have never heard of it before. do you know how it works?  i do know how a normal injector works, but ain't the SAME different? anyone help me? laters pudding |
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Post by eppie on Sept 16, 2002 10:56:24 GMT 1
Hi Pud.
A guy near me, have had a Same Silver 90. When he ran out of fuel, he filled a few liters of fuel with a can, and started looking for a fuel pipe bleeding screw, and a hand pump. He spent half a day looking for it. Then, they called in importer. They came with a computer, plugged it into the dashboard, and suddenly you could hear a little electric motor spinning. after some seconds, sneezing noises came from under the bonnet, and from the fuel tank. And that was that.
Maybe the guy should call in the whizzkid from the importer too.
I have a fuel leak on my 5245 too, some suck hose. every 20 minutes, the fuel filters are full of air. I just loosen the screw, and let the engine run slowly. And if i start it in the morning, i just pump a few times with the hand pump. I keep on running with it.
By the way: That guy changed his 3 year old Silver 90 for an older Deutz 6 cyl. Agrostar or something.
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Post by Woodbeef on Sept 16, 2002 12:13:11 GMT 1
Hey pudding,
I'd try getting ahold of Same directly. Maybe the head of Customer Service,or Tech can answer your questions.
I've always found that Same does things a tad bit different than most!!
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Post by kenjar on Sept 16, 2002 15:12:59 GMT 1
Hi Pudding,
I looked at a photo of a Same 1000 series engine. There is no excess fuel return line for the injectors. I think it is done at the injection pump. Same uses an integral injection pump, by this I mean the pump is cast with the block. In the photo it shows return lines coming off the pump.I should say injection pumps, as each cylinder has its own.
I beleive the pumps are made by Bosch.
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Post by pudding on Sept 17, 2002 2:23:11 GMT 1
hey thanks guys, i really do have to get to know SAME better!!
turns out this person who emailed me has a NZ email address, and i invited them to the forums, so hopefully i am helping to even out the people in the forum, and keep you canadians on the straight and narrow!!
i was too young and it was to long ago for me to remeber the 1000 series motor in the SAME silver 80 and 90 i drove,
hey renze sounz like the guy you know had more problems than the usual, they are auto bleeding supposidly......just like the MX240/270 and the NH60 series and TM/mxm and the axial flows combines....
turn the key, hear the pump pump up........hit the road again!
lol.....dang it.....i can't even remeber the leakoff tube on those systems.....hmm.....i need to do my home work
bosch seems to be on most tractors these sdays, if its not the fuel pumps its the hydrauilic pumps......dads NH L75 has a bosch oil pump........great thing about it....NH couldn't replace it in a hurry (had to come ex aussie).....bosch NZ had one there on the shelf.......NH has to be faster than that!
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