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Post by Laapa on Sept 11, 2002 20:55:28 GMT 1
Working on a little project on big plows.
So far I've come up with the following big plows being manufactured today. Missed any? Looking for websites.
John Deere 3710 (10 furrows) CaseIH 800 (12 furrows) WilRich 2900 (12 furrows) Kverneland DA & PX/RX (12 furrows) KUHN (12 furrows) Gregorie-Besson SPL9 (17 furrows) Överum DVL (also AgroLux and MF) (10 furrows) NAUD Mega (12 furrows) Lemken Vari-Titan (12 furrows)
I know DMI had a 21 furrow 3-section machine in the past. Is that the biggest?
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Post by eppie on Sept 11, 2002 21:00:44 GMT 1
We have an MF three furrow. Made by Huard. It's from end seventies, i guess.
Has MF switched their plough supplier later?
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Post by kenjar on Sept 11, 2002 22:06:48 GMT 1
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Post by eppie on Sept 12, 2002 19:57:29 GMT 1
Oh, i remember: Kuhn ploughs are actually the Huard, Kuhn took them over, i think early 90's
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Post by pudding on Sept 13, 2002 3:54:48 GMT 1
you talk about big moldboard ploughs?.....you mean number of furrows or size of the moldboard,
you need to get intouch with a crazy italian who makes a fiat 180-90dt work towing a 2 furrow, 18inch (at least) semi digger plough....
for some reason they like ploughing real deep over there
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Post by eppie on Sept 13, 2002 22:30:06 GMT 1
There are a few deep ploughing contractors over here. One has a two furrow ploughing 60 cm deep, and also a 1 meter one furrow.
The other one has an old FW30 pulling a 2 meter deep one furrow. These ploughs are used for soil improvements. We have a standard 1 furrow plough for that use, dragging it at maximum depth will not turn over the complete ground layer it lifts, but it turns the ground on it's side. I will do this on the wet mudspot where we used to have the manure heap.
The ground has lost it's structure, due to the manure in it. No oxygen can penetrate the soil to rot away the manure, and the circle is complete.
Two winters ago, i did it with the three furrow. dragging it around at 45 centimeter depth takes all the traction i had.
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Post by leemsutton on Sept 13, 2002 22:59:02 GMT 1
Guys,
Why on earth do you do that!. The amount it costs you in fuel, labour and wearing parts must be ridiculous let alone the pressure it puts on the tractor your doing the job with.
You mention soil improvement - I cant see your improving it by ploughing down to 2 metres deep!! Christ what are you all doing!! I have never heard of that before.
If your that desperate to get better soil then go and farm in eastern europe instead. You can lease/buy land there for as little as £40 per acre. It must cost you at least that to do what your doing with your ploughs.
Lee
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Post by eppie on Sept 13, 2002 23:27:28 GMT 1
www.hayaerts.nl/machtekst19.htmlA Panter plough, i think a 60 cm. By the way: I only do it on small corners of land, where the structure is as bad that it cant get any worse. And mostly, it helps if you dont touch that ground a few weeks. Ofcourse, it's dumb to do that on a stabile, good structure soil. I think they use the 2m ploughs to mix up different layers of sand, clay and peat.
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Post by Jon B on Sept 15, 2002 0:29:57 GMT 1
People here are also worried about stuff like plowpans and compaction and stuff like that. That is why we are seeing more and more of the DMI rippers and the JD 512 disc rippers around the country side.
The advantage that we have here is that we have frosts, and that helps loosen the soil. The frosts actually save us one or 2 passes with the cultivator in the spring.
We can't run one of those 2M deep plows here - any real farmer has his fields drainage tiled
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Post by eppie on Sept 15, 2002 15:35:45 GMT 1
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Post by Laapa on Sept 15, 2002 22:15:44 GMT 1
I think that picture was listed as an OOPS picture somewhere beacuse it looked like the tractor got stuck...
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