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Post by kenjar on Aug 28, 2002 0:16:22 GMT 1
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Post by eppie on Aug 28, 2002 20:17:29 GMT 1
The implement and the tractor werent photographed at the same time. I think it's pasted into that background.
The nose looks not too bad, at least not the 'sweet face' as the other varios.
The 800 series looked nice, the varios are too sweet faced.
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Post by Xavier on Sept 1, 2002 2:34:06 GMT 1
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Post by kenjar on Sept 1, 2002 15:07:13 GMT 1
Fendt has upgraded the 200 V/P models also. Their engines maybe the Deutz 914 series. New C range combines added too. Are these of Deutz Fahr design? The 800 Vario shares engines with 700, Deutz. They call this series the compact heavyweight, guess the 700 is compact middleweight. HPP was right, the 930 has the MAN. www.fendt.com
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Post by F6L913 on Sept 1, 2002 20:57:33 GMT 1
Yes Kenjar, the 200 models come with the new 914 Deutz air-cooled engine. About the combines, the three Fendt models are the Actor, Ectron and Topliner Deuth-Fahr models. All three with air-coolded engine. The grain header looks different as the Fahr.
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Post by European A on Sept 1, 2002 22:55:42 GMT 1
I´m still surprised there haven´t been critics about the new Fendt´s bonnets. Don´t you think Fendt is killing the Vario Design as Deutz-Fahr made with the Agrotron by introducing the new TTV? Just talking about styling. From my point of view the Fendt bonnet has been a very interesting concept (well designed by F.A. Porsche) but I don´t like the new grilles... After seeing some more pictures of New Holland´s TG Series in www.farmphoto.com, I would like to know your opinion as well... I think it is a superb design
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Post by Woodbeef on Sept 1, 2002 23:44:12 GMT 1
Hey European,
How's it been going?
Yes,I totally agree with you on both the Fendt,and NH TGs.
I just hope that some of that styling finds it way on down the food chain at NH!!
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Post by Xavier on Sept 2, 2002 0:35:07 GMT 1
Not a fine line like 700, but seems ok to me the 800, 930 its a little much aggresive for me, but i'm happy that technical has won the war to design in this tractor, better refrigeration.
I'm bored of this design only for design, not like those Agrotron, the design at the service of the technical.
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Post by European A on Sept 2, 2002 21:22:54 GMT 1
Hi woodbeef! Well, I don´t think design has been used in a stupid way by most of the brands. It´s not just about styling. A tractor is not a sport car... Come on. Xavier I don´t understand your English. Sorry. If you mean the Agrotron is design and just design...I have to disagree. The Agrotron concept is a tractor to be used with front and rear implements...That´s the reason for this amazing design. But, if you are thinking just about rear implements, better get a double set of counterweights... About refrigeration, I don´t think this is worse in the Atles (for instance) than in the new Fendt. I just think there are many other ways of providing good refrigeration. The new TG Series for instance have a lot of air intakes. I just think the new Fendt´s bonnet is boring and not the interesting game of surfaces that we saw in previous models from Marktoberdorf.
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Post by Xavier on Sept 4, 2002 0:01:49 GMT 1
Sorry of my english No i don't say that Agrotron is only design for the design i try to say that the design of a Agrotron is with technical objectives, not only for became a beatiful tractor, or that who somebody think is beatiful, in my country we say: ' for opinions the colours' or something like this, 'per a gustos els colors'. Working with frontal implements or with a loader Agrotron has a very good performance. About refrigeration i don't think like you, seem that a tractor with a nose like that has a better refrigeration, well a Atles has a open nose too, ok there are the light up but we need them. In this board for example Renze has the opinion oposite to yours. Well if there isn't unanimity in the appareance, well do what is better for work. Hope i have upgrade my english... or not.
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