Narrow transport...

[Laapa]

We've had this discussion in the past, one way or the other... but I couldn't resist sharing this quote from CIH's website:

Narrow transport
At its widest working width of 62 feet (18.9 m), the PTX600 folds to 21 ft. 8 in. (6.6 m) for convenient transport. Narrower models fold to 18 ft. 6 in. (5.6 m).

Convenient transport at 6.6 meter? On the moon perhaps... Half that width would not be legal in most countries in Europe!

[eppie]

Orange flashlight required for transport wider than 2.70 meter, max. width 3 meter, max width with loose loaded field harvest, such as long grass, 3.5 meter.

That's law in the Netherlands.

P.S. We had 4.5 meter Veenhuis horizontal drum tedders, which could be transported lengthwise. Transport width less than 2 meter.

Most horizontal drum tedders werent wider than 3 meter, but Veenhuis tried it with the lengthwise transported type. This was no succes, and their rakes werent the best. They did not develope a 'spin head' rotary tedder with horizontal spinning tines, so they they resigned from the haying machines market.


So, to the point:

i think case should fold them to around 6 meter wide, as they currently are, and place a rotating boom for lengthwise transport. (hope they arent longer than 3 meter at work)

[kenjar]

Pretty common around here to see equipment that wide going down the roads, some even wider.
Alot of newer kit have folding wings which gets the width down to 15feet or less. Makes roading much easier.

[Red_Painter]

I remember travelling down a road in southern Saskatchewan, north of Havre, Montana and an 8850 four wheel drive John Deere pulled out about 1Km in front of me headed my way. It was pulling a folded up chisel plow that must have been at least 20m when unfolded. I was wondering how I was going to get by him since it took up the whole two lanes of the country highway. Those Canadian country highways can be about 4 lanes wide or more taking into account the ditch on the side of the road which are in places small hayfields for the Canadian prairie farmers with highway frontage. That makes it easier to move big equipment. Luckily, he turned left into a field before I got up to him.
You probably won't see equipment that wide in most areas except the Big Sky type country. I don't think four wheel drive tractors would be practical in the US without wider loads allowed. We always make sure we flag ahead of the tractor when moving wide cultivators and drills like when you move a combine down the road in these hilly areas with blind corners and little shoulders on the roads. It means you have to have 2 drivers to move from farm to farm or remote fields.

[pudding]

here in kentucky, we flag everything, except tractors set to 30inch rows and the quadtrac, both towing nothing, all implements and mx270 and pivot steers are flagged, our largest set of discs is 48ft unfolded, and is as wide if not wider than out JD9400 on 710 tires on the road, the flag man gets vehicles off the road and up drive ways, we use the whole road, there is a bridge we cannot get under and our field cultivators miss the power lines over the road by less than a foot. we have hit power lines before, and have had wheels go flat, bearings give way, when when have to get off the road into ditches, here it is a federal offence to knock over letter boxes, we have replaced a letterbox this year, and i have 'tapped' one with the quadtrac and field cultivator!

when we cross bridges, we block them, one town we go through, we block the main street in one place

our farm in the past has discovered that a stieger on a low boy, will not go under somebridges (find out the hard way), and lowboy trailers, don't like climbing out of our levy fields (had one stuck with our tiling machine on it), our farm has also discovered what happens when hopper bottoms fall off the road.....lol

implements widths in america is crazy, but a lot of fun.....believe me......ya got to try it!

wide implements are common here, i like the wider ones to transport, cause the more wings you have the more moving parts, the poorer the implements performance when it ages, nothing worse than a 48ft set of krause discs which won't level

[arno]

so, pudding, I can't complain driving the IH 633 (1.85 mtr. wide) with a two row cultivator 1.95 mtr. through our village......

We also have a ferrar-tractor, 40 HP, articulated, with a smal cultivator. both are 770 mm wide. TRUE! it fits perfect in our treenursery.

DRIVE SAVE,
Arno

[eppie]

I was thinking, in the States, tractors are not allowed to go faster than 30 km/h. Here in Europe, 50km/h is the new standard.

BTW Woodbeef: buy that 6945 if you know how to operate a clutch... More info on zetorworld forum

[F6L913]

I have a combine harvester and the transport is a nightmare for me.

Here in Catalunya the fields are very small and one farmer can have 5 or 6 fields in different parts of the town. The my problem is, I start harvest for my frined in a field, 2 hours of work, then 45 minutes of road to go to the other field, 1 hour of work, another time take the road and go to the next field, 25 minutes more without harvesting... and every day like this.

My combine have a 5 meters header and i don't use trailer for the header, so it's very difficult to do the transport.

See my town here and you can understand me. There're a lot of small fields.

www.icc.es/capcomar/bellvis.html

[Laapa]

We got a 9 row sugarbeetplanter that does not fold. That's our widest I gues...

We hot a 15 foot header on the combine witch we remove for some trips. Luckily our fields are pretty close so we can drive across our other fields to transport the combine with the header on. We buildt a home made header trailer a few years back but we hardly ever used it as it took a long time to mount. Nowadays since we actually started using it munting the header is a lot faster since we got a little practise.

Sweden does not have the 3 meter rule on transport. That means, for instance, Väderstad sells a special RAPID drill for sweden. 4.2 meters wide, not folding.

Would be interesting to learn some more about really big implements. Are there any pull-type 16 furrow plows still being manufactured? How about them old drills where multiple smaller drills ate mounted next to each other (seems they should be gone with the Airseeders). I have seen 2-3 drills next to each other still being used but in old pictures of Steigers and bigbuds there might be as many as 7 or 9. How about really big cultivators. Are 80 ft the largest ones being made?
Anybody got website for adressses huge-implementmanufacturers, perhaps smaller ones than CNH and JD?

[Woodbeef]

Hey Mr.Zetor,

As far as I know there are no restrictions on speed over here(except the posted speed limit of course)

As for width,well.........as long as it stays between the ditches........

[Red_Painter]

I think the multiple hitched packer drills use on the plains are no longer made. Saw some new IH a few years ago. Seemed that IH was the premier drill manufacturer years back, but the factory no longer exists. Those large multiple hitched hoe drills could be moved sideways since in later years, wheels were attatched to the rear which could be hydraulically set down lifting the packer wheels and with two front wheels on each drill, they could be pulled from a hitch on the end sideways. Before that, Donohue built a light flat trailer on bogie wheels. The bed of the trailer could be pulled forwards sliding off the wheels flat on the ground. Then you could drive your drills onto the bed of the trailer and hitch on to the trailer tongue, back up and slide the drills on the bed back up over the wheels for transport. Simple concept. I guess it worked. Saw three 14 foot MF hoe drills hooked together loaded on one in extreme southern Idaho for the wheat fields outside of the irrigation area near Wyoming and Utah.

[Woodbeef]

Hey Laapa,

I'd think that today you'd probably find the biggest equipment in less populus places such as Africa,Oz,Eastern Europe,Russia etc...

[kenjar]

Hey Laapa,

The 2 and 3 section conventional drills are still available.
www.greatplainsmfg.com/gp/index.html
This company also sells planters.

www.speedkinginc.com/drills/
Models available to 45 feet.

www.sunflower-mfg.com/

www.krauseco.com/5400/5400.htm

Both of these companies offer tillage kit also.

[Laapa]

Speaking of Krause, weren'tthey supposed to be building tillage kits for CAT, or did I get that wrong? Whatever happened to that deal now?

[kenjar]

Laapa,
Krause was building implements for CAT. I checked the CATsite, seems any info on the implements has been removed. The Krause/CAT deal may have been terminated.