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Post by Woodbeef on Aug 30, 2002 3:13:20 GMT 1
Has anyone ever seen a Mezzo 6100?
How much shorter in real life are they than the 4cyl models?
Does anyone own one?
How are they for power?
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Post by Farmer from Finland on Aug 30, 2002 10:07:31 GMT 1
Hello from Finland
Valmet 6100 is 140 mm shorter as 6300-6600. Output is 58 kW(79 DIN hp) Weight 4000 kg (6300 4120) Std tyres 16.9-34 and 13.6-24
I haven't never prooved,maybe i have seen.I don't know any in use.
I have leatlet year 1991 there is all information 6110-6600 Valmets those days.
Maybe this model is little bit heavy for this engine and also beacuse of short axle distance maybe it start jump easily on the road with full speed.
More information,Woodbeef??
Farmer
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Post by Woodbeef on Aug 30, 2002 13:19:41 GMT 1
Hey TripleF,
Thanks for the reply.
I'm trying to get some idea of the obscure Mezzos(6000 & 6100)
The 6100 was never marketed over here. The 6000 was,but I do not think any were ever brought in.
Mostly 6400,with a few 6200,6300,6600and6800.
The M100s are the biggest sellers in Canada.
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Post by Jon B on Aug 31, 2002 3:31:10 GMT 1
Hey Woodie
The other day on agriculture online, the one guy posted about hooking up an 8950 Valmet on a deep ripper, and being thoroughly impressed.
Too bad that post got deleted, but still, I did find that very interesting, that it "played" with the deep ripper. I always thought that the lack of weight on the Valtra would hinder it when pulling those things - that has always been my "pet peeve" with Valtra; some jobs, you need the weight.
But he also had good things to say about the cab and stuff too. And this for a Green head. It is going to be VERY interesting to see how Valtra sells in the US.
PS I saw an ad in a North Dakota paper for an 8950 demo machine - $69000 US. Impressive price too
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Post by eppie on Aug 31, 2002 18:30:10 GMT 1
The last years, I went deep ripping with the 5245, 50 hp, 3080 kg, with a three tine ripper, working depth about 60-70 cm, on soil with some ore layers.
For deep ripping, weight is not important, the lifted soil layers give quite some weight on both tractor axles. The rear axle is loaded with the weight of the lifted soil, the front axle is loaded because the forces work mainly on the ripper blades, below the surface.
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Post by Jon B on Sept 1, 2002 3:14:28 GMT 1
Thank you Renze. I'll admit, sometimes the "mechanics" and "science" of things like weight distrubution, ballast and power gets to be a bit confusing and overwhelming at times.
I think I made the same mistake about the Valtra tractor before, saying they were too light when actually, the weight transfer of it means that tractor weight doesn't matter.
Once again, thanks for the claification
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Post by eppie on Sept 1, 2002 22:39:19 GMT 1
Jon Bos:
That's what counts for deep ripping. For other implements, the amount of weight transferred can be less favourable.
When i pull out trees with the 5245, i hook the chain to the top of my earth bucket, this pulls the front axle off the ground. If i cant move it, i let the 3ph down till the front axle nearly hits the ground, and lift it again. This causes a peek force, what can be just that 30% extra power you needed to pull that treestub.
And: You can always ballast the lightweight Valtra for other use than deep ripping.
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