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Post by Woodbeef on Aug 12, 2002 14:54:45 GMT 1
Comparing these two companies:
Which one was more advanced?
Which one was more depenadable?
Which one sold the most?
I've only seen Counties over here. They seem to have been sold as Fords,by Ford dealers. In Quebec many were used as snowblower platforms and also as tlb.
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Post by New Hollander on Aug 12, 2002 17:26:37 GMT 1
Hello Woodbeef,
How is the weather over there in Ontario? Here in our country it is really wet. In some parts the potatoes almost floated out of the rows and other crops have started to rot. The County Channelswimmer would therefore be a very welcome tractor(this was a County on Terratyres that crossed the Channel between France and UK by its own).
In my opinion the County wins over the Roadless hands down. County was the biggest seller(I think they sold over 30.000 tractors throughout their existance). County is king for dependability. They could withstand a lot of abuse and were also designed for non-farm jobs where in my opinion the Roadless was more designed for agricultural use. When you look at the program they had in the 70's, the program of County was much wider. They produced forward control, high clearance, 4WD, Ford 8100 and other tractors, even Ford tractors with Perkins engines. I have a very nice and interesting book about County. I really love it and it is a must for Ford enthusiasts just like the Ford Tractor Story part 2. It is just part of the Ford tractor history.
Greetings from Holland,
New Hollander
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Post by Woodbeef on Aug 12, 2002 19:30:08 GMT 1
Hey New Hollander,
How's the white collar world these days?
Best hay crop ever over here,and if I get a 2nd cut it will be better!! Started out wet and cold, lots of corn and beans were never planted. Then early July went HOT and DRY for about three straight weeks,just enough time to do hay with out any rain. Now we sure could use some rain.
You guys get the new TG yet? What do you think of it? I think it looks pretty good. wonder if the styling will trickle down?
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Post by pudding on Aug 13, 2002 1:41:44 GMT 1
hey woodbeef......they never sold the roadless in NZ if that is anything to go by
county were one interesting rig in there time, and up to the introduction of SAME and fiat, there wasn't a whole lot else in the NZ market like it....small hp 4wd.......you could by a hydraulic JD......but you had to be nuts to break hill country on one, which is what most countys and older SAME tractors did in NZ.....
the county that floated was kinda interesting, one made it to nz.......think there was 6 built, or was it two built?!
the roadless to me, although i have never seen one, appear to be a lot more nimble tractor......
you didn't compare muir hill!
to answer your question on dependability, yes.....the 6 cylinder and the 4 pot and the ford 5000 backend stood the test of time, the front drive parts are becoming kinda pricy
the only moan i have is the american sourced gearboxes and diffs.;......how hard is it to find parts for a ford 9600 (county 1454), i was told they were kinda hard to find
also you compare dependability......ya got to be careful.......countys, ford 5000 etc, SAME, Fiat etc, that was used in hill applications in NZ, did hard hours!>.....
weather?.....dang woodbeef, you summed up our situation real well!
NZ weather, my parents have had a big flood, balage bales floated across their nieghbours farm....lol!
Laters
pudding
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Post by Woodbeef on Aug 13, 2002 2:04:36 GMT 1
Hey Super Hero type dude,
Yes,I did forget Muir-Hill. We had some here. I've seen a few. Looked to be more factory built like,then the County if I remember correctly. They were more scarce though were they not?
I see that Bavaria is pretty wet these days too.
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Post by pudding on Aug 13, 2002 3:06:22 GMT 1
hey woodbeef..... muir hill 101 was the ford 5000 backend, straight front axle and i think the had a step in the drive line, a step down?.....to accommadate the front axle, the best thing that happened in the USA was the introduction of versitile and stieger, the county super 6.....100hp was no match for the early 100hp pivot steers.... the muir hill models were only in some markets.......i am told they tried the mh181 in the USA......but that was about it! a few MH in NZ.......but they were no where as popular as the county.....they were equally as solid thou.....i know a company who had 4 MH101......and man.......they drove them like bulldozers in the field, they were used for towing 70000pound + rigs in fields when harvesting tomatoes...... lol.....we got wet too.......this is the only farm i have heard of that you can get a centre pivot irrigator stuck in a drought........and we did it! www.farmphoto.com/homestead/message.asp?dsply=all&mid=10176check it out! also check out the broke grain truck in the woops section.....this happened on our farm last year! laters pudding |
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