Farmer from finland
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Zetor
Jul 26, 2002 9:58:47 GMT 1
Post by Farmer from finland on Jul 26, 2002 9:58:47 GMT 1
Renze have some Zetor images in farmphoto com. Some comments.In Finland we had only model 6745/6711,because according law we had only cabin models since 1970(or middle 1969) Anyway,the first 4 wd tractor what i have driven was Zetor 5545,the 'father' of 6745.Maybe i remember it so well,because i drove this tractor in wood.In those days in Finland were many contractors with tractors equipped with winch,they moved logs for forestmachines. My feeling of 5545 was inpressive,my age was only 12 years and it was macing to drive very easy over stones.
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Jul 26, 2002 11:58:34 GMT 1
Post by eppie on Jul 26, 2002 11:58:34 GMT 1
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Zetor
Jul 26, 2002 12:43:45 GMT 1
Post by Farmer from finland on Jul 26, 2002 12:43:45 GMT 1
Hello again. I just said that the first 4 WD tractor what i have prooved was 5545,what is first Zetor 4 WD is different thing.If i remember right the first Zetor 4 WD model which arrived to Finland for common sale was 5545. Yeah our models was: 3511,4511,5511 and 5545 3711,4712,5711,6711 and 6745,also 8011/8045 I haven't heard before of models 5647,6718 and6748.
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Zetor
Jul 26, 2002 12:51:09 GMT 1
Post by Farmer from finland on Jul 26, 2002 12:51:09 GMT 1
And again. Now i understand how story goes. We had in Finland finnish made cabins with Zetors.It means that they was shipped to Finland without cabins. Therefore we dont have models like 6748 etc.It seems that those models have Zetor own cabin. Farmer
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Jul 26, 2002 12:55:01 GMT 1
Post by eppie on Jul 26, 2002 12:55:01 GMT 1
I havent heard of model 3711. Is it a downtuned 4712 ?? or is it the renamed 2511 2 cylinder.
We also had 5718 (we had one), 4718 and 5748. These were the original names for the cab tractors as they were called by the factory.
Later, we could have the 11 and 45 with or without cab, no special name for the cab versions of the 9 series.
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Zetor
Jul 26, 2002 13:09:27 GMT 1
Post by Farmer from finland on Jul 26, 2002 13:09:27 GMT 1
Maybe i created 3711 from my head,4712 was smallest model in this serie.I'm not so expert of zetors as you Renze.But somehow this history is intresting and also i must say that i haven't ever own any Zetor always other tractors.But models which i have prooved are 5545.5511.6711,8011 and 8045 almoust all ploughing. The reason of those many 'tests' was that my naighbour had good relation to local dealer about 10 years ago and he had every year different Zetor for ploughing.I was young and always ready to try every different tractor model. Farmer
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Jul 26, 2002 13:42:01 GMT 1
Post by Woodbeef on Jul 26, 2002 13:42:01 GMT 1
Hey Renze,
Your "8" model tractors are new to me. I've never seen any over here.
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Jul 26, 2002 18:27:20 GMT 1
Post by eppie on Jul 26, 2002 18:27:20 GMT 1
The 7 series cab models were called 8, like 4718 and 6718. The 5511 with cab was called 5611. So 7 is the series, 8 is the model. We have had a 4712, 5718, and still have a 6718.
I am working on a page on the 7 series. wait till next month and i'll let you know.
The 5745 and 5748 used the old front axle from the 5545, the 6745 and 6748 had a brand new front axle, used on the UR1 till around 1996.
Hey, farmer from Finland:
Why didn't they sold original Zetor cabs ?? I can hardly believe if the Finnish cabs were better than the original safety cabs.
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Jul 27, 2002 0:13:11 GMT 1
Post by Woodbeef on Jul 27, 2002 0:13:11 GMT 1
Hey Renze,
Sometimes importers do some very wierd things. You should see what ugly cabs we had over here on the Co-Op Volvo BM tractors!!
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Jul 27, 2002 17:23:53 GMT 1
Post by eppie on Jul 27, 2002 17:23:53 GMT 1
Yep, and mostly that doesn't mean very good things. I think they should make a law against it !!
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Zetor
Jul 29, 2002 9:55:13 GMT 1
Post by Farmer from finland on Jul 29, 2002 9:55:13 GMT 1
Now all tractors to Finland are equipped with originally cabins.Why earlier many models were with local solutions is not 100% clear for me.But some reasons are: 1.Lower price,maybe we had some tax laws which created too high price for tractors,or with some countries we had specially tradecontracts..... 2.Finnish safety rules were'nt same as in other countries.One example of that was JD SG2 cabin which was in EU area one door version,the solution for us was with two doors. T tried find some picture of old models with finnish cabins but without any result.
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Jul 29, 2002 19:08:24 GMT 1
Post by eppie on Jul 29, 2002 19:08:24 GMT 1
For what i know, Zetor was one of the first with ROPS safety cabs, like used on the 5611 and 6718. so, i dont think the original cabs didn't met the Finnish safety rules.
Ir might have something to do with tax, like Toyota assembles cars in the U.S. to bypass import taxes.
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Jul 29, 2002 23:00:07 GMT 1
Post by Hendrik17 on Jul 29, 2002 23:00:07 GMT 1
@ Farmer from Finnland:
What would you do with a second door on a JD SG2 Cab? We had a JD 1640 and 3050 with SG2. I see no use for a second door on that cab - you even canĀ“t get out there, because the position of the Controls (Brake pedals, handbrake, foot and hand throttle, Gear levers)makes it very difficult to get out at the right side. Just wondering how they have done the second door on the SG2 cab - the centerpost is not really at the center of the hood so the right door would be bigger than the left. Have never heard or read (have read many JD books) of that . Do you have a picture of such a SG2?
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Jul 30, 2002 6:28:51 GMT 1
Post by Farmer from finland on Jul 30, 2002 6:28:51 GMT 1
It's different thing what tractor users want and safety rules people are doing.Concerning SG2,we users really don't need door for operating panel side.But pls.remember that were the opinion of our people who made laws during period 1970-1985,about. Other thing is that we had also some kind strange rule concerning material of cabins frame.According my understanding we were'nt able to import used tractor from EU because the material for tractor of Finland were special.That because of our winter.sometimes -30 deg. I raelly don't know what is true with this matter,but true is that during mentioned period imported tractors needed special safety agreement same process as official dealer company. But remember.that period is over,now we could import machines from EU area without any special .....
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Jul 30, 2002 11:17:44 GMT 1
Post by eppie on Jul 30, 2002 11:17:44 GMT 1
That might be the reason.
Steel can take much less strain when it's that cold. At -30'C, the steel is much weaker.
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