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Post by HPP on Jul 2, 2002 12:15:06 GMT 1
Thought you might be curious to see what this was all about!
Someone said, think it was Laapa, that it would be a good thing if we could share what we find on other sites.
Well, on the profi forum I didn´t find anything interesting, but on the profi newspage I found this:
The german tractormarket jan-may 2002:
Fendt 2.501 units 21.5%
JD 2.297 19.8%
CaseIH/Steyr 1.598 13.8%
Deutz-Fahr 949 8.2%
New Holland 720 6.2%
Massey 534 4.6%
Same 353 3.0%
Valmet 284 2.4%
Minsk (Belarus) 247 2.1%
Iseki 185 1.6%
Kubota 179 1.5%
Ladini 173 1.5%
Mercedes 154 1.3%
Renault 154 1.3%
Carraro 84 0.7%
Holder 74 0.6%
Lindner 72 0.6%
McCormick 54 0.5%
Hako 46 0.4%
Bühler 45 0.4%
Zetor 34 0.3%
Others 883 7.6%
Man, those germans really know what tractors to buy don´t they (sorry Renze!)
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Post by eppie on Jul 2, 2002 13:51:37 GMT 1
Your self-esteem needed that for the time i catched ya on the Vario discussion  ..Just kidding... By the way, you are Scandinavian. What about Scandinavian tractor sales? Zetor used to sell good in Scandinavia, as they did since the fifties. |
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Post by HPP on Jul 2, 2002 14:21:39 GMT 1
OK Renze, you´re one up!
I´ll try to remember to post the salesfigures for Sweden next time they come up. We have one Ag-Magazine, ATL, that usually presents the statistics every month.
About the Vario in trucks eh...? Well I don´t know why. Probably its because it isn´t suited for speeds higher than 70 - 80 km /h. To go higher I guess you´d have to reconstruct or something. Maybe a third speedrange. I still think however that efficiency would be allright though.
Oh yeah, when I post the salesfigures from Sweden you´ll have a good laugh. Fendt is struggeling here to reach the 1.0%-level. Still, we´re having a lot of fun though! And, besides, MF is doing very good here!
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Post by eppie on Jul 2, 2002 14:30:07 GMT 1
At least you are honest.
...Looking forward to those sales figures...
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Post by kenjar on Jul 2, 2002 15:21:10 GMT 1
Hey HPP, Looks like the Fendt/Deere battle continues. I noticed Buhler had .04% in sales. I did not know they even marketed tractors there. What about Deutz? Weren't they market leaders in Germany years back?  |
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Post by Friedhelm on Jul 2, 2002 16:44:53 GMT 1
Yes, Deutz was a very long time No. 1 in Germany. But thoses Times are over and IMO the chance for Deutz to get back to No. 1 is very bad. I live in a former very strong region for Deutz and more and more Farmers decided to buy something else the last ten years.
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Post by kenjar on Jul 2, 2002 18:54:45 GMT 1
I just received the latest I&T magazine. There are total sales figures for the 2001 year listed.
Renze, Here are some Scandinavian figures.
Finland
Valtra 2441
New Holland 875
Deere 457
Massey 380
CIH 262
Same 187
Deutz 83
Lamborghini 39
Zetor 36
Fendt 21
Others 157
Norway
Deere 688
NH 562
Massey 536
Valtra 419
CIH 231
Same 132
Fendt 88
Deutz 46
Others 177
Sweden
Valtra 1001
NH 678
Deere 611
Massey 591
CIH 440
Lamborghini 78
Zetor 73
Belarus 61
Deutz 61
Fendt 44
Same 34
Steyr 25
Ursus 14
Hurlimann 7
Landini 5
Others 31
It appears the Italian market is a hard one to crack.
The top 5 makes are native to that country.
1 NH,2 SDF, 3 Landini, 4 Carraro, and 5 Goldoni.
If anyone wants figures for the other countries listed, let me know and I will post them.
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Post by eppie on Jul 2, 2002 21:09:57 GMT 1
I knew that..
Is HPP doing something wrong with his Fendt sales??
Or are the Zetors so well appreciated in Sweden..
Hey Kenjar, what about Finland??
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Post by kenjar on Jul 3, 2002 0:00:36 GMT 1
Renze, I posted Finland first. How about the Steernboss region? Here goes. The Netherlands 2001 NH 1207 Deere 735 Fendt 478 Massey 302 CIH 301 Renault 205 Deutz 163 Valtra 145 Landini 101 Steyr 97 Zetor 80 Same 58 Hurlimann 35 Lamborghini 12 Others 66  |
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Post by Xavier on Jul 3, 2002 1:18:29 GMT 1
Hey Kenjar is all that informationa avaible in any website? There is informationa about France, UK, Ireland? And USA? In other hand, the sales of the models, not makes, is avaible in the Germany market at any website? Information about sales of models i think is more important than makes, you can see if one make sells better their big tractors or their orchards. Is possible to make a section in Agmachinery about sales in the different countries?  |
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Post by kenjar on Jul 3, 2002 4:18:35 GMT 1
Hello Xavier, I have not found any website that gives this information. Profi and I&T publish this in their magazines occasionally. France, Spain and a few others were in I&T.The UK was not. The US does not release these figures, not according to make anyway. At least I am not aware of any. I&T does have a monthly sales figures for certain hp classes.ie. 0-40 hp,40-99 etc. In the US tractors of 40hp or less sell the most. Greetings, kenjar |
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Post by Laapa on Jul 3, 2002 7:41:26 GMT 1
I posted the sales figures for Sweden a while back.
I was suprised to see 45 Buhlers were sold in Germany last year. Would those be Vesatiles or Genesis?
Also the 154 Mercedeses, are the Unimog by chance?
Very interesting topic.
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Post by HPP on Jul 3, 2002 7:53:57 GMT 1
Hey Xavier,
there is such info available, for the german market.
Somewhere on the profi-site. Can´t really remember exactly where but if you go to their newspage you´ll find the link schlepper bundesliga or something. There you can find salesfigures from back to -91.
As I have the figures for 2001 here they are (in a cut version)
Fendt 309 - 827
JD 6910 - 778
Fendt 716 Vario - 705
JD 6310 - 693
JD 6610 - 397
JD 6810 - 394
Fendt 714 Vario - 390
JD 7810 - 349
Fendt 712 Vario - 339
JD 6210 - 290
Fendt 411 Vario - 289
JD 6110 - 278
Fendt 926 Vario - 244
CaseIH CS 86 - 239
JD 4100 - 234
CaseIH CS 94 - 230
NH TS 115 - 229
JD 6410 - 223
Case IH CVX 170 - 185
Deutz AP 85 - 183
OK, so it wasn´t very much of a cut version. Got carried away there!
A little bit more :
200+ Hp-sales:
Fendt - 486
JD - 269
CaseIH/Steyr - 207
Mercedes - 116
Massey Ferguson - 51
Hey Kenjar,
your question posted to me is, as you can see, already answered (about the Deutz-sales I mean).
And, Renze, my friend!
Yes, I guess you could say I should be doing better!
And yes, I´m honest! In my line of work you have to!
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Post by HPP on Jul 3, 2002 8:55:45 GMT 1
Hey Laapa,
I see you were posting questions while i was in here hammering salesfigures away.
Those Bühlers? Well, I´m not sure but I assume they must be Genesis.
The Mecedes are definately Unimogs.
BTW are you done peaing? (funny what you can do with words and letters isn´t it?) Saw part of the crew the other day going home, at Reimer´s, were you there?
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Post by Marx on Jul 3, 2002 14:28:05 GMT 1
Is Buhler imported in Deutschland?
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