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Post by AgMachinery on Jun 29, 2002 8:56:51 GMT 1
The updated newsstory of New Holland also shows the new TM and CR.
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Post by Xavier on Jun 29, 2002 16:46:24 GMT 1
Hey and what happens to the TS series, it remains as now? No modifications on exhaust, cab, trans to 50k,... And there isn't any New Holland with CVT? Is this the role of Steyr in the future? And what about a TS (in red version), If you want a HP in Case you have a old Fiat L or a Steyr CS without reverser. I don't understand CNH
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Post by AgMachinery on Jun 30, 2002 9:37:03 GMT 1
The NH TS-series remains, for now. I think some changes will come next year. If you look closely the Case JXU is the same as the TS.
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Post by boozie on Jun 30, 2002 11:06:52 GMT 1
The JXU is not the New Holland TS but the TL.
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Post by AgMachinery on Jun 30, 2002 11:57:11 GMT 1
I'm sorry, you are right. The TL is the JXU. TD is JX and TM is MXM. I get awfully confused with all these combinations...
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Post by Fred on Jun 30, 2002 12:11:26 GMT 1
When you say TD do you mean TS? Never heard of a TD, yep it's totally confusing. Maybe they will simplify things by having one set of model numbers, then one name and finally one colour!!
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Post by Arno on Jun 30, 2002 12:59:35 GMT 1
as far as I can follow the story, the TD is a serie build in Turkey, I didn't know they had a factory there, and don't know what the've build there before, or still build. I'm afraid there is now not a Case anymore. except the big Magnum. Most (old-) Case-product are now used by McCormick, only with a Perkins. The new line is all NH... Next news to looking forward to: Steyr!! regards,
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Post by AgMachinery on Jun 30, 2002 13:05:37 GMT 1
The New Holland TD is build in Turkey and is a low spec tractor, that replaces the New Holland (or former Fiat) 66 series.
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Post by Fred on Jun 30, 2002 14:59:56 GMT 1
Fiat have a factory in Turkey and Turkey is full of old style Fiat's so I suppose they updated that. So CaseIH don't have a model comparable to the TS built by NH? Actually I suppose you could say that sector is covered by the Steyr sourced CS.
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Post by Jesper Hansen on Jun 30, 2002 15:31:41 GMT 1
Yo tractorfolks..
Not long ago, a lot of people on this websites talked about A, B and C brands, and a few said that Case was an A or B brand and NH was a B or a C brand, i didnt agree.... Now it looks like CNH have made up thier mind, and it looks like NH will be the high spc. brand, ex. SuperSteer only availble on the blue models, also the Tm models 175 and 190 will have a multifunction button right beside the up/downshift button on the PowerCommand gearshift/Joystick. NOT ON THE MXM I still think that Steyr will be the top brand in the CNH company, just like Jaguar or Aston Martin is in the Ford family. The only reason for those models to availble in Case red, is simply because they bought the brand before NH (FIAT) got Case......
As for the TG, it looks a little funny, but lets wait and see it for real.
JH.
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Post by Woodbeef on Jun 30, 2002 15:35:32 GMT 1
From what I'm hearing the red TS(CIH MXU) will come out first of next year. I just hope that they finally move the exhaust to the A pillar this time around!!
Unfortunately for us on this side of the pond,CNH in its infinite wisdom has deemed it totally unnecessary for them to send us any Steyr or the uglier painted CS tractors!!
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Post by Xavier on Jun 30, 2002 15:38:22 GMT 1
Yes i understand TD and JX like a low prize option. But in a mid range, you can get a TS with Powershuttle and the CS haven't it. How can Case compete in equality, they can't. We are going to a CNH like a make, you can choose the color, like Valmet, and there wouldn't be differences. Compare a TS 100 with a 6320, or a Agrotron 105, Farmer 410 they are in a real disavantage. CNH bosses don't see it? A lower esp yes, but they have Case and Steyr for this, and they aren't using this option. JD will have it easier to reach their objectives in Europe, the 50% of the market. In other way the cab of the TM and the cab of the MXM (not very original in the name), are the same in the interior? At the exterior seem different at least the lights at the roof, exhaust too seems.
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Post by kenjar on Jul 1, 2002 19:53:14 GMT 1
Hey AG Boss, I get all the pics to show up but the CR. Anyone else with the same problem?
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Post by kenjar on Jul 2, 2002 4:12:21 GMT 1
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