new MF articulated tractors

[grostracteurspassion@hotmail.c]

What do you know about new MF 4WD and have you any pictures?

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[Red_Painter]

Has some announcement been made on MF coming out with a 4WD? I know there is a rumor or magazine report that they have one being tested.

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Maybe the new artic isn't a MF but an Agco-Fendt. Take a look at the homepage of Fendt (www.fendt.com) and on left top of the main page you will see an absolutely new face.  

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Good eyes RWZ!!

Yeah!! It looks like the nose for a tractor without front axle (maybe a challenger) or with a new location for the front-axle (maybe an articulated one)...

[leemsutton]

dont know where you guys are looking but all i can see on the usa and english fendt sites are a 700 series bonnet with it lights on.

here in england it has been confirmed that initially the challengers are going to be CAT yellow

Lee

[JoeinTX]

 I have to agree with Mr. Sutton, this simply appears to be a picture of the nose of a 700 Vario.  This is the same picture that has been on the site for some time now, nothing new.......Easy, fellas, lets not start looking for pictures of the new 4wd behind the shooter on the "Grassy Knoll."

[martijn]

YeaH the picture is a 700 vario!!!

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Sorry Mr. Sutton,
I think I was looking at the pic without my glasses. The first time I saw it I thought the side air-intake panel was taller than in the 700 Series. Then I began to dream. Now with my   on I see it is a matter of shadows. Just another 700 Series bonnet.

I´m sorry Joe, I didn´t understand your post. My english is not good enough.

Sorry, It was never my intention to create a false rumour.

Besides that photograph with a supposed tracked Fendt is not real at all. I saved the original Claas pic where someone spent some hours. The Claas one was in the net some months ago.

[Woodbeef]

To tell you the truth,I can not really see Agco going to a bend-in-the-middle machine. The market is not the biggest,and their last delve into that market did not work out very well. Especially since they now have the MTs. But if Versatile becomes available in the future.........

Hey Joe,better watch it or they might just reconvene the Warren Commission on you!!

[JoeinTX]

  I was just making a little reference to the conspiracy theorists who find the oddest things in the strangest places.  It was just a joke, I know you weren't trying to create a rumor or anything like that, European.  Ya'll can poke fun at me next time...... I don't see AGCO trying anything in the big 4wd area either.  As Woodbeef said, now that they've got the MT why bother?  They should be content to let JD and CNH fight over that ever shrinking segment and get on with the business of convincing those same buyers that the Challenger is what they need.  

[Red_Painter]

To compete with what's already out there in the articulated four wheel drive market,  Agco is going to have to have something with the latest design like the Challenger tractors (there have been a few rumors on the internet that Cat had been working on a four wheel drive in recent years- Don't know if there's any truth to it). Since Challengers seem to be exclusively or almost exclusively sold through Cat dealers in North America so far, there's little chance for MF or Agco dealers who could sell such a tractor to get one unless there's an orange or red version later (also rumors of that happening).
I thought that before they  bought the Challengers, Agco would have Buhler Versatile built a four wheel drive for them in Massey colors (that rumor was out there too. I think Dion in Quebec may possibly build a forage harvester marketed by Hesston). I doubt a Versatile MF would happen now. Buhler has at least three Agco (non New Holland) dealers selling their tractors. I think they have about 60 dealers now and say they will try to have about 250 dealers within the next 12 months so some Agco dealers may be able to pick that franchise up in some areas.
I would like to see Agco have a four wheel drive that their dealers could sell to  modern day farmers (an important segment of the market for some important and strategically located plains and corn belt dealers which is not avaliable to them now), but with the poor farm economy, MF being out of the four wheel drive market for some time,  relative small number of dealers selling Agcostars, and low unit sales industry wide, it doesn't look good, but it may still materialize.
If non Challenger dealers don't get a tracked or large four wheel drive, it makes me wonder if they're looking to Cat dealers for a major portion of their North American large tractor sales in the future. (I can't see that would be good business for the near future and for that reason I think there's a chance they could have an Agco/MF tracked challenger type or four wheel drive.) I fear that in the distant future, farms may be so large and few in number that farm machinery dealers will be more ike construction machinery dealers.

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I have heard a lot of rumours about these new MF articulated tractors but, to be honest I have serious doubts MF has built any of them.
We have seen pictures showing a red Fendt with a Massey cab or the magnificient images of new CNH products (even prototypes!). If AGCO would have made some prototypes we would know that. Although there would not be images someone would say he/she has seen them [which, as far as I know, has not happened]. AGCO people don´t know anything about that.
It is difficult to see an agreement (AGCO/CAT or the birth of CNH) but it is becoming quite easy to see a prototype, like this website often show us.

Something similar has happened with the rumour about wheeled Caterpillars, while all the prototypes were developed in the latest 70´s and earliest 80´s (you can see them if you visit the Dekalb factory).

I even thought the new MF articulated tractors would be related to the AGCO/Cat Challenger agreement. It would be nice to see a wheeled MT800... but I think it´s becoming easier to see an U.F.O.

I hope to be wrong