New MF Xtra

[martijn]

Massey has just launched yhe new 8200 Xtra. Will the 6200 also have some updates?  Anny has seen a new Xtra or has droven whit it. Is also lauched in the USA/CANADA or alone Europe? Will this be tha last update before the launch of a new serie whit CVT?

[Red_Painter]

I think the M F tractors in the past were often introduced in Europe  about a half year before in America. I would expect to see it introduced here in September though I'm not sure.

[Woodbeef]

Hey Martijn,

The dealers here know nothing  about them yet. I have not even seen any 4300s here yet except at the T.O. show. As Red_Painter said we are usually at least 6 months or more behind you guys,if we see it at all over here!!

I've noticed that the smallest 6200 we can get is now the 6255 though.

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have you seen the massey ferguson vario on this site. maybe it will have something to do with the 6290 xtra.

cant beat masseys

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Go to the top of www.terre-net.fr and see the new MF of 390 hp this the big tool. The France has win a record.

[Woodbeef]

Hey MB,

I checked out that site,but my French is not very good(heck for that matter neither is my English!!) What I'm wondering about is the 390 hp that is quoted there. It seems kinda on the high side does it not? I'm thinking it might be a typo,and could possibly be more like 290 hp in all actuallity. Anybody else have an idea???

[leemsutton]

woodbeef,

massey 8280 is not even 290 hp in england. its only 272.  i double check on th emassey site to be sure and that say the same thing.

17 furrows on a 272hp tractor! i think not some how.

looking at the picture of it there are two things that stick out. one is the added air filter on the roof which runs to the engine and the other is the very large wheel weights on the back wheels.

me thinks that the engine been tweaked which needed the extra air intake perhaps for bigger turbo and then they relaised they could not get the power out through the wheels so they weighted it up with what look like at least 4-5tonne weights.

So they must have tweaked it to well over 300hp as the  quadtrack which previously had the record with the same plough was 380hp.

also look at the land type and dust coming off the plough which means very very light sand land and i bet they were only ploughing at 5 to 6 inches.

I cant speak french either but it woul dbe good to find out what actually went on although I think i am on the case!

Lee

[orange]

The air cleaner might of been moved just to get more air in through the rad and improve the cooling

[Red_Painter]

My guess is that this plowing was probably  done in lighter dry soils. If it's in a dusty area, the air cleaner needs to be put high to get the cleanest air. In the very dry dusty summer fallow areas of the western US, farmers undercut weeds and mulch the surface in unplanted land for one year in order to save enough moisture for one crop every two years. These areas have very dusty conditions when rod weeding or using under surface sweeps so tractors have very high air cleaner intakes or extra supplementary air cleaning added on plus many cats and some wheel tractors have triangular shaped air ducts added onto the front of the radiator grill that pull air into the tractor from the top at the hood level instead of directly into the front of the radiator grill. I wonder how the drive line will hold up on that tractor?

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MF 8280xtra/ 251ha in 24h
Ijust read this article and i`m pretty sure the boosted the power up to 390 engine hp. That is the same hp as in the biggest MF combine (Ceria) in europe.
Happy Easter Martin

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I just read the article. To answer some of your questions:
The air intake was put on top of the roof or else it would have to be cleaned 6 to 7 times in 24 hours. The engine has 390hp and is from the biggest MF combine. The front tires are filled with water for 75%, can't tell if they also did that to the rear tires. Tyre pressure is 1.1 and 1.2 bar. They ploughed the fields in a circle so they didn't have to make headland turns. They achieved a higher fuel efficiency of 8.35 l/ha compared to 8.80 l/ha with the previous record. The field was ploughed at a depth of 27.3 cm. The soil is very light.

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No kidding.

I say bring that 747 Big Bud over - slap a 25 furrow rollover plow - put it on some of that ash soil - do it in a circular field. bla bla bla. You have yourself a completely useless world record

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:)hey martyn did you see the challenger site at agco yet  yello masseys they have iseki in the smal cat in the mid up to 120 hp i think they are perkings and the bigger tractors have sisu engines  you now every on wants to copy massey they gone have allmost as many colors as valtra maby green and blu just kidding mf is the best groetjes van nl uit tx

[Si]

I've been thinking 390hp Massey, are you sure this is not an Aprils Fool? 8)
Cheers
Simon