3pt and PTO on telehandler

[Laapa]

Apart from moving stuff around on the farm (when the plow is blocking something etc.) will these new features on Telehandlers really be usefull?
Will the machine be able to handle a plow? Cultivator? Sprayer? Fertilizerapplicator? Baler?
I've seen pics of a limegreen telehandler w. 3pt molboardplowing, but is it reasonable that such a machine should be used for this task?
Seems transmission, weight, balance, rearwiew over implement etc. should be all wrong.

[Woodbeef]

I agree that it looks like it will be of marginal use at best.

Is it only there to pacify those that claim it is too specialised of a machine? With the hitch and pto it instantly becomes more usable,hypotethically of course.

They have not caught on over here like in Europe. Not sure if they ever really will or not.

[AgMachinery]

The limegreen machine you are talking about is the Merlo Multifarmer 30.6. That one seems a far better machine than the New Holland. The three point linkage has been build directly on top of the rear axle, so the weight distribution is better. Also it lifts much more as you can read on the newspage (scroll down).

I think these machines could be used by some farmers. Especially by dairyfarmers who use a telehandler daily to fill the feederwagon. With this new specifications they could also use it for light farmwork like tedding or maybe mowing.

[David_Jones]

I think its just a gimmick really.  The rear visibility of most teleporters is poor enough to make using any rear mounted implement for any length of time a pain in the neck, literally.  I agree that the Merlo looks more feasible than the NH.  I suppose it might be another argument to persuade a livestock farmer to swap his loader tractor for a teleporter, but personally I've never felt the need for such a machine.  You can get a decent tractor with a big powerloader for the price of a telescopic and with modern quick hitches you can dump the loader in minutes.

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I agree about the 3pt hitch and pto not being much use.  We've ordered a JD 3400 for this coming hay season and even if they did offer the 3pt hitch and pto, I wouldn't have ordered those options.  These tele's are really handy and we have enough loader work to justify one.  I think once farmers start trying them out and not just looking at them, they'll understand why their so popular over in europe.  The tele's beat a tractor/loader combo hands down and if you need a loader every day then they can't be beat.  The only thing that might be of interest I guess would be the pto for pulling a feeder wagon or something but other than that, don't really see it.

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I disagree with you all as i think there going to take off in a big way. You'll be able to get rid of the tractor that does the harrowing, rolling, grain carting etc.

all the farms out there running 3 tractors plus a telscopic can now run 2 tractors and a telescopic.

I am from europe and they have had a big marketing push over here but surely you guys can see that its very practical.

Woodbeef i am surprised that your not on the band wagon with this one.

I have not even seen one in the flesh and its already sold to me. Next time we go for a new telehandler the pto and linkage will be on there without a doubt and we have not got any livestock!

Sold to the man in england - although i assume i'll be importing one as i saved nearly 10,000 pounds sterling on our last one coming from france!

[JoeinTX]

     I would have to agree with the other "skeptics."  When I first saw and heard of the tele's with 3-pt and PTO my first reaction was "Why?"   Looking at the pics they seem very uncomfortable and poorly laid out for any type of work pulling implements.  Vision anywhere except to the front and left is bad, bad, bad..... I realize that these are just the first real attempts at making the machines multi-purpose and adding these things was done on the fly to the existing design.  With a redesign and little more time I could see a much better multi-task "tele-tractor" with better cab position and better layout take shape.  As the tele-handlers are today they are much too specialized and limited to be of much use to me and I really don't see this current generation catching on outside of Europe.  You folks in Europe ask your tractors to do many more things than we do here in N.A.  Plow like a tractor,  long distance road use where it needs truck-like driving characteristics....Front and rear mounted implements for more intensive work in a single pass...and now it must be a specilaized piece of construction machinery too.  I don't think that even a more refined tele-handler type would catch on very much here-we simply have too many other machnes to do those jobs.

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does anyone know of the very best telehandler available to suit steep northern ireland conditions? i expect an answer from lee sutton or woodbeef as i admire your supreme knowledge of machinery. ive followed you from fwi and will certainly enjoy your reply. it needs to be quite small to suit poultry houses. no claases. wheels not wide enough. a massey would be nice to match a new massey 6280. do you know of any problems of these? Bob 13 y.o

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Myself and woodbeef will differ purely for ag reasns!

Lee's reason would be toward either a manitou 629 or a JCB 520.

I am going to have to go with manitou as they were a lot cheaper and they are very reliable.

Depends on you, but go for it as there are loads of telescopic manufacturers out there.

Final decision is price not spec!

[AgMachinery]

Robert, what about the Merlo P26.6 LPT, just 1,95 m high. And for the Manitou, i would go for the Compact MT526.

[Woodbeef]

Lee,it's not that I do not believe in teles,I think they are a great machine if you can get the use out of them. As for the 3 pth and pto,well......that's another story. I do not feel that it makes the machine actually more legit. The whole concept behind them is to be an unbeatable loader,not a 2nd rate cultivating unit.

I do not forsee big sales of the units over here,whether with or without the rear acroutements. They are just to specialised and costly for most farmers. The local Deere dealer has one that he figures he can sell to about 3 or 4 local dairy farms. Well its been there since early December. It has not even went out on demo yet,only thing its done is pulled some floats in the Christmas parades around the area.

As for your question Bob. I'm kinda like Valtra,only into tractors really. I do know a tad bit about teles,but not much,sorry. The thing I'm wondering about is the terrain you've described. I can see the chicken house use,but on high hills,would a tele be of much use? To me it would be defeating the purpose and idea of the machine. It seems that it would become awfully unstable mighty quickly in loading situations,especially on side hills. How do they handle down hill travel with a load also? Thanks for the compliments though all the same. As for the brand,if Lee,and Ag Machinery say Manitou,sounds good to me!

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robert,

over the weekend i had a look around here at a few livestock farmers and most are using manitou. there is one merlo and one sanderson and a couple of the now defunct matbro.

i would manitou seemed to have won hands down around here - well within a 10 mile radius anyway.

cant fault ours other than its a bit slow on the road. we had it in april and she's only clocked up 400 hrs. for stability our manitou guy said you should put the extra large tyres on it.

ours was imported from france at a fraction of the uk price - its worth considering and your best bet would be talk to mark at farols as they import them - although we had ours from elsewhere cause farols had none in stock and we were desperate.