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Post by CMunger on Jun 2, 2007 15:29:10 GMT 1
In central California, we do not have alot of moisture, so the crop is left standing until it is at the moisture content they feel it will be safe to harvest. The crop is cut with a truck running along side of the forage harvester in the field, when that truck is full another pulls under the spout, the contractor always keeps the machine harvesting, dumping on the end of the field wastes to much time. The trucks take it to the dairy (Renzes relatives), where a large tractor with a dozer blade builds a large pile and packs it as much as possible. When done it's covered with a black plastic tarp, this is also possible because of the dry weather.
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Post by McCase on Jun 8, 2007 9:48:41 GMT 1
Here are some spyshots of a new claas jaguar 2008 prototype, shot by an www.xtrac.de member. We see two exhausts. Some V-shaped engines also have 2 exhausts, but this can also be 2 synchronised engines in the Jaguar... If you can't see the pictures: www.xtrac.de/index.php?topic=2710.210
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Post by RmarkV on Jun 8, 2007 14:03:27 GMT 1
How long will those pictures be available i wonder?
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Post by McCase on Jun 8, 2007 18:37:54 GMT 1
They are already some days online, and posted at farmphoto etc... Perhaps Claas doesn't mind. Now everybody has something to talk about besides the new NH FR?!
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Post by Advice on Jun 10, 2007 5:42:11 GMT 1
Not from Australia. But not every one can know every thing..............
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Post by RmarkV on Jun 10, 2007 9:26:08 GMT 1
From what i have heard, the New Holland is a mixed bag of results! The Claas now looks abit like a Ford KA all roundy
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Post by McCase on Jun 10, 2007 11:08:36 GMT 1
From what i have heard, the New Holland is a mixed bag of results! What did you hear ?
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Post by RmarkV on Jun 10, 2007 14:41:05 GMT 1
Taken from profi
Did any one else see the poor show from the New New Holland SPFH @ Scotgrass? It did not seen to go very well and kept stopping. Just like the old FX's !!!
yeah i saw i going at scotgrass and thot it was quite a poor show, especially when he went to start moving and oil temp wasnt high enuf to start drum up so had to bleather bout tractor beside it 4 couple mins first. CLAAS no got any competition yet it seems
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Post by RmarkV on Jun 11, 2007 14:37:32 GMT 1
There is one in Ireland apparently , picking up 30ft Irish swarths at 5.2 miles an hour
Another big X sold here to that makes 2
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Post by RmarkV on Jun 12, 2007 16:34:36 GMT 1
There is one in Ireland , just saw it, nice tidy compact machine. Didn't see it working, not sure if I need to, it has arrived on the emerald isle. ;D
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Post by gary hale on Jun 12, 2007 17:25:30 GMT 1
hello there lads , im 14 and live in northern ireland in county armagh , near the city of armagh itself. i know a good bit about self proppellled harvesters and some types of machinery , but lately iv been plagued with thoughts about the new holland fr 9000 series harvesters! they are yet to start showing up over here. so , iv heard they might plan on introducing a v12 version in the future , kicking out 1200 horsepower at the most?? does anyone know if this is true?? hopefully the fr 9000's will sell well over here and maybe fx owners will get rid of their useless fx harvesters , then that way i wont have to look at them , the useless scrap!! ;D ;D and does anyone think the fr 9000 series will be any good? im quite enthusiastic about this new series especially the engine and the redesigned chopping cylinder! it all looks good to me , but i am yet to see one at work , never mind in person......... but have to say , the claas jaguar is king!! cant beat it!!........ well lads , what have you got to say in reply to my questions then??.....
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Post by Marc on Jun 13, 2007 15:54:45 GMT 1
cit" hello there lads , im 14 and live in northern ireland in county armagh , near the city of armagh itself. i know a good bit about self proppellled harvesters and some types of machinery , but lately iv been plagued with thoughts about the new holland fr 9000 series harvesters! they are yet to start showing up over here. so , iv heard they might plan on introducing a v12 version in the future , kicking out 1200 horsepower at the most?? does anyone know if this is true?? hopefully the fr 9000's will sell well over here and maybe fx owners will get rid of their useless fx harvesters , then that way i wont have to look at them , the useless scrap!! and does anyone think the fr 9000 series will be any good? im quite enthusiastic about this new series especially the engine and the redesigned chopping cylinder! it all looks good to me , but i am yet to see one at work , never mind in person......... but have to say , the claas jaguar is king!! cant beat it!!........ well lads , what have you got to say in reply to my questions then??..... "cit You have the answer here : www.farmersguardian.com/story.asp?storycode=7764taken from farmersguardian.com : There are five FR9000 models starting a 395hp and peaking at 824hp but Paul Tyvaert, New Holland’s, platform manager says that the longitudinal layout of the engine means there is no reason why this cannot be increased up to 1,000hp or even 1,200hp. Indeed the laboratory test rig, which has clocked up some 3,000 hours, is powered by a 1,000hp electric motor, while field tests have shown spot rates of 300 tonnes per hour.
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Post by gary hale on Jun 13, 2007 16:13:40 GMT 1
dont worry , already knew about the features of the brand new range..... i would like to see if a 1000hp or higher fr 9000 is introduced.... if it does happen to become a reality , would it have an edge against the krone big x 1000?? especially in american markets where the need for forage harvesters with a big appetite is a must , since they want such high outputs in maize silage!? and here in ireland ( as well as the north ) yes , we do have very heavy first cuts were grass is nearly up the full length of my legs and im nearly 1 and a half metres tall. even a claas jaguar 890 or nh fx 60 ( common over were i live ) have trouble moving quickly through 30 foot swathes of first cut silage and we usually get more than 15 tonne an acre i believe?? even 2nd and third cut grass isnt much lighter. in fact for those who dont live in the uk or ireland , usually grass is left till nearly the start of may at the earliest and at that stage its still pretty light. in fact last weekend my uncle only finished putting in the first cut of about 25 acres on what many would call a smallholding. that crop was up to the top of my legs when i stood in it!! and im really surprised about how light american and european farmers cut their grass!!
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Post by eppie on Jun 14, 2007 19:41:26 GMT 1
Hmm then why do you irish cut it so tall ? when grass grows above, about 1 foot tall, it forms indigestible cellulosis fibers from the sugars and protein, which means that the animals can take less energy from it. Also, grass above 1 foot tall doesnt grow very efficient (takes just time to grow plant mass, with very little increase of the total amount of useful energy on that field) Also, let your crop dry for 2 days, it cuts the tonnes to be hauled in half. BTW how small are you ? Or are you growing elephants grass ?
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Post by younghale6290 on Jun 14, 2007 22:35:25 GMT 1
ELEPHANT GRASS? cmon , iv never heard of that!.... im about 146 centimetres / 4 foot 9 if ur not metric?...... our colder spring and winter conditions means grass takes a while longer to grow for the first few months of the year , so may is really when grass growth starts to take off..... we grow it longer here also because a typical farms ground wouldnt be near the size of that in the rest of europe , never mind america!!! typical dairy farm here is 100 - 200 cow herd in most parts and maybe only 200 acres of ground to be cut for silage , for a typical farm of that size anyway....... some are bigger, some are smaller....... so with less land they have to make a heavier crop of grass to fill the silos / pits over here in ireland....... also in ireland compared to silage outfits in america , we use medium to large horsepower tractors to draw in grass ( about 100 - 200 horsepower ) and usually 14 - 20 tonne silage trailers ( the norm over here ) are employed with that..... and a typical draw is only a couple of miles to a silo at the most , and they make do with a 40k gearbox , if not sometimes a 50k gearbox...... most contractors here only have the one harvester instead of several!! also 3 - 5 tractors drawing in silage are normal here , depending on the distance to the silo which you americans call a pit...... compared to many in other parts of the world using lorries..... which would maybe bog in on some of our fields , it all depends really...... oh and some farmers will let the grass dry for at least one day or sometimes two days...... over here it doesnt exactly matter how moist the grass is to farmers or contractors , iv never thought about the issue myself lak...... i must say that i feel awkward talking to people using such strange names for things in farming....... some of you should check up on my type of vocab lak , be easier for me to understand..... ;D ;D
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