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Post by Woodbeef on Aug 13, 2002 0:42:37 GMT 1
Today Deere finally released some 7020 series info to their North American dealers. No pictures yet,or expected date of availability.
All horsepowers are measured at the pto.
7220-90 hp
7320-105 hp
7420-115 hp
7520-125 hp
The 7610 has been dropped due to low sales vs the 7510
The 7710 and 7810 will remain until next year,when the IVT will become available in the new models,and possibly the 8020 series.
So I guess Laapa,you made out o.k. on your new Deere. It is still a current model! How's it doing?
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Post by pudding on Aug 13, 2002 1:50:24 GMT 1
they must have finally sold the backlog of 7210-7510 in stock eh...... time to release the 20 series......wonder why else they would delay the update of the mid market 'common' tractors......
personally, i think the new belarus coming to america is more exiting! ;D .......lol.......hope i don't offend!....
see cnh has released the mx235 and mx 285......cool, all they need now is wieght and big wheels to use all that power!.......believe me......they wheel spin rubber on rims!
laters
pudding
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Post by Xavier on Aug 13, 2002 23:27:42 GMT 1
I suppose that here in UE this tractors wouldn't be avalaible.
Maybe 7720 and 7820?
By the way whats IVT? a vario trans?
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Post by Woodbeef on Aug 14, 2002 1:08:40 GMT 1
Hey X-man
How's it going?
IVT (Infinitely Variable Transmission) is what the spin-doctors at deere have named their inhouse developed CVT tranny.
True about the smaller 7020s,I forgot that you guys get bigger 6020s than we do over here. Gee guess my memory slips a tad bit on Deere info from time to time. I wonder if Laapa can send me some of that special Deeroid green beer?
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Post by kenjar on Aug 15, 2002 3:47:51 GMT 1
Local dealers left for Louisville ,Kentucky, today. While there, they will get the latest in Deere propaganda.
Hey Pudding, you excited about the new Belarus coming to America?
Xavier, IVT means= IntraVeiniousTransfusion.......in other words a shot of green.
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Post by Hendrik17 on Aug 15, 2002 7:16:40 GMT 1
Over her in Europe the JD IVT is called "Autopowr" and it is already availiable - on 6420/6420S, 6620 - 6920S and on 7710 and 7810 Models.
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Post by Woodbeef on Aug 15, 2002 13:41:10 GMT 1
Unless Deere changed with the 6020 series the tranny is a ZF EEcom II the same one Deutz is using I do believe.
The 7010 is using the Deere designed IVT.
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Post by Xavier on Aug 16, 2002 1:50:13 GMT 1
Ok i see IVT is the Autopower trans. It isn't a option for the 6420 in the States i see in the web. Is Vario well sold in USA or not? Anybody knows how many of 6020 sold in UE are Autopower units. Everybody knows how many CVT of Fendt, Deutz, Case and Steyr are sold, but in the JD sales it is a mistery. Green all is green, Fendt and Deutz too.  Here in Catalonia 7010 are a status up than the 6010, if you are a really important farmer you must have a 7010 and not a only a 6010. But 6010 is the most sold 6310 6910, first and second tractors more sold here. |
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Post by kenjar on Aug 16, 2002 4:22:10 GMT 1
Hey Xavier,
I beleive Agco sold 200-300 Fendts last year in N.America. Vario is the only version we get here.
As far as I know Fendt is the only brand sold here with a CVT/Vario type tranny. Appears Deere will be offering one soon.
Might have to add Valtra to your green list there Xavier, you know they come in two shades of it.
I should get all the green scoop this weekend, local dealers will be back from Louisville by then.
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Post by pudding on Aug 16, 2002 5:15:28 GMT 1
kenjar.......i thinks they will be a better product than there predicessors......belarus is releasing a new tractor, not adding on to the existing model biggest problem they now have to overcome is getting people to trust the brand hey i know.....change the brand i have a marketing plan for belarus!......call them john doe and paint them pale green!......hey look what the colour orange has done for kioti........lol.....dang i good! u finished harvesting kenjar? laters pudding |
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Post by eppie on Aug 16, 2002 20:14:21 GMT 1
I saw an advertisement on the bag of Boerderij magazine last week, they advertised 80-160 (engine) hp 6020 series tractors. The 6420 S has the around 125 hp four cylinder with sigmapower, to compete with the Fendt 412. (412 is no match for 6420 S, i think). I think the 6920 S is a 'sigma power' too, the other models are no 'S'.
We only had the 7610, 7710 and 7810, 155-165-185 hp, i think.
Pudding:
Any specs on the new belarus? is it a "grab components and bolt together" machine, or a real Belarus? I think it has the Belarus 7.12 litre six pit, but i dont know about the tranny. I am curious though, Belarus have always been a quite good tractor if you compare it with the low price they take for them. Just very rough to opererate, but you get what you pay for.
That new Belarus looks nice, i think. At least it has its own style.
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Post by Xavier on Aug 16, 2002 20:45:40 GMT 1
Oh my god, i don't think about Valmet.
Woodbef i'm sorry about that.
Are any picture of the Belarus? Tranny a powershift version?
Here in Catalonia Autopower, the CVT version of JD is a optional trans for 6420, 6420S, 6620, 6820, 6920, 6920S in the Premium version. In the Premium Plus is the trans they are fitted with.
Kenjar, 200-300 seems a very low sales. Here in Catalonia 60 Fendt were sold, and we are a minimum market in front of the States. (what's yours?)
By the way how many tractors could be sold in USA in a year? Suppose JD is majority.
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Post by eppie on Aug 16, 2002 21:05:48 GMT 1
look at www.farmphoto.com ,click machinery&equipment, click tractors, click Belarus, and your eye will be ettracted by that model that seems not to belong in the Belarus section. |
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Post by Woodbeef on Aug 17, 2002 1:09:03 GMT 1
Hey X-man,
That's O.K. most times they are painted Valtra Red. The Valtra Green is the 2nd most chosen color.
Hey Renze are you sure about deere calling their S models Sigmapower? Seems to me that is a Valtra trademark!!
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Post by kenjar on Aug 17, 2002 4:47:06 GMT 1
Hey Xavier,
Fendt is very new to N.America, only been selling them here for a couple years. In Texas they had only one dealer, have added two more this year. Not many dealers, high priced tractor = low sales. Very nice tractor to drive, give'm a few more years, I think sales will improve.
Pudding,
Any scoop on Belarus? What models etc.
Yep, got through harvesting, busy now doing field work.
Renze,
SigmaPower belongs to Valtra. Unless Deere is using the Sisu engine. Maybe the "S" is for shortonpower.
Woodbeef,
About that 6400, what color etc. ? Give us some details.
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