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Post by Red_Painter on Jun 15, 2002 16:31:50 GMT 1
The ZTS is a good looking tractor. Here's another (non related) tractor I stumbled across last night. It's an improved design of the Argentinan Deutz (Deutz Allis). You can see the Massey influenced as I assume that they're built on the Brazilian Massey platform . Go to www.agcoallis.com.ar/productos/Tractor/default.htm click on 6.150 for new tractor, click on "Ampliar Foto" to get a large picture and compare it to tractors like the 5.220 and 5.190 which are about a 2 year old design. Makes me wonder if Brazilian Masseys will follow more modern hood lines soon. |
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Post by eppie on Jun 15, 2002 22:10:00 GMT 1
Hey, Woodbeef and Kenjar:
The updated model 2000 18345 prototype was on the factory newspaper of ZTS, turiansky strojar.
Both pictures on my site are UR4 in the prototype stage.http://www.zts-tees.sk/strojar/_5011html/e_index.html
I have uploaded some older farm photos to my Zetorworld photoalbum. The rest is at my brother's place, also the spectacular 4712 photos, and the Ursus C-385A sunken away in hogsh*t, so i havent put all of them up yet.
I think if the ZTS will have access to Zetor sales channels, they will have to triple their production capacity directly. I think Kenjar might like to buy a 18345. He says he likes simple and solid. And solid they are !!
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Post by kenjar on Jun 16, 2002 4:54:19 GMT 1
Hey Renze, I might like the URIV equiped like this= www.farmphoto.com/homestead/message.asp?dsply=all&mid=3419Martin puts some good pics at farmphoto. Hey Red_ Painter, Thanks, I have been looking for the Agco Argentina site. The 6.150 sure resembles the current MF-Agco line. I wonder if it is Argentina built or if it isn't from France. Nice looking machine, they should ship some north for us to have a better look. |
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Post by Red_Painter on Jun 16, 2002 6:27:13 GMT 1
You might be right, Kenjar. I thought it looked alot like the French tractors. They have that 5000 series MF that looks like the British built 4200/4300 series and larger French models in South America www.massey.com.br/espanhol/series.asp?series7 . I wonder if they maybe assemble some tractors like that with alot of European content. I wonder how the cost of bringing off continent tractors would be accepted there. Whatever NH and Deere are doing on the in S A, may be what Agco is doing. |
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Post by eppie on Jun 16, 2002 9:38:44 GMT 1
Hey Kenjar, I try to find a photo of our 5245 equipped like that!!... It must be somewhere..
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Post by eppie on Jun 16, 2002 13:06:28 GMT 1
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Post by Woodbeef on Jun 16, 2002 13:33:35 GMT 1
Hey Red_Painter,
They do look interesting.
Quite a miss-match of older Deutz,newer Deutz and MF tractor ideas.
If they could bring them north cheap enough,I think they'd sell up here at least. Plenty of Deutz die-hards running around Ontario.
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Post by Red_Painter on Jun 16, 2002 19:34:51 GMT 1
Renze. thanks for putting up the Lanz pic and sound. That speed Bulldog looked like a pretty heavy duty outfit. Really enjoyed the sound of that engine. I imagine there are alot of old Lanz enthusiasts out there in many parts of the world that would like to hear more of those old classics. Sounded like a pretty economical tractor, fuel wise, especially where fuel was expensive.
Woodbeef, I'll bet there would be a new excitement for those Deutz up here all right, especially in areas in Canada and the US where they were somewhat established before the
AC purchase. That may be about the best looking tractor Agco has now.
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Post by kenjar on Jun 16, 2002 20:29:48 GMT 1
Hey Red_Painter,
You are right about the 6.150 looks. I checked some of the specs for the serie 6 and 5. You probably were right all along, they appear to built in Argentina. They have 12x4 transmissions on most models. The largest model was in the serie5. Appears that the 6 is to be their replacement. Oddly the larger models have the aircooled engines. The smaller serie6 have watercooled Deutz.
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Post by Red_Painter on Jun 16, 2002 22:04:50 GMT 1
I'm glad you checked out the specs, kenjar. I haven't had the time. They sure do look like the French tractors. With John Deere and CNH putting their latest models into the South American market, Agco has to keep up with the competition (not that they weren't doing that already). A company can't sell older looking models in some countries as the practice was a while ago. I hope they keep the ruggedness that those Brazilian Massey designs were supposed to be well known for.
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Post by eppie on Jun 17, 2002 16:12:20 GMT 1
Hey, Red Painter,
That sound is nothing yet. You should hear them hard working. You think you'll die if you put your ears close to the pipe!
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Post by curtUSA on Jun 19, 2002 4:28:11 GMT 1
Best looking tractor is a ford 7600 with American fenders, power adjust wheels and optional saddle mount fuel tank 10.00-16 front tires. I can still picture this tractor at the local ford garage when I was 6 years old.
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