The Global machinery marketplace

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I have been thinking about this for a while, and especially since i've been on this forum.

Our beet harvesting co-operative has bought a machine from Germany - the Euromaus. This machine will be the first of its kind in North America, but in essense, that fact does not mean anything.

The world is getting smaller every day. The internet and other technologies allows instant communication with people throughout the world. And more and more, English is the preferred language in the world.

My point that I am trying to get at is that, if I am looking for machinery, whether new or used, I think that now a days, we should be comfortably look everywhere for it. It might be at my local dealer, or it might be in Germany or Russia, or Austrailia. I feel that the sellers should have a proper grasp of the English language, because of this reason.

I feel that we should have no hesitation going to Germany or to Canada or the USA to look at used machinery. And I also feel that parts should be easy to come by. I realize that overseas shipping takes time, but look at the amount of planes in the sky.

How do you guys feel about my opinions. I realize that some machines are built for certain areas, but if I wanted a European Style John Deere combine, I should be able to get it and have no worries about parts and service.

[leemsutton]

I totally agree with you Jon Bos. I think the likes of farmec and mascus are bringing us nearer to what your saying.

However the main drawback at the moment is the transport of the products from the origin to the destination. Its quite expensive and only offsets itself if the product is cheaper in the 1st place.

Lee

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I agree Lee. However, often times, the quality of the machine, or at least some of the features, can be enough to offset the difference in price. It is this reasoning that I find that we should be expanding our horizons, and that sellers should be expecting to do business with people all over the globe.

[Woodbeef]

Very good post Bosman!!

I agree with you totally! If the companies do not think we are ready for it,we have to go elsewhere to get it. Just look at what CIH's answer is for them not selling Steyr tractors in N.A. CIH figures the tractors are way to technologically advanced for our side of the pond!!

Mascus  www.mascus.com  is going that little extra,and offering shipping,and inspection services for purchasers in Europe. We could be next if there is enough of a demand.

Parts and service might be the sticky point though,especially with Deere. They do not even want to sell parts south of the border for the Euro models sold in "The Great White North" let alone pure Euro models!!

But after reading Profi,and seeing other pictures,I for one realise that there sure is alot more to pick from than just what is sold over here!

Then again,I find nothing wrong with these so-called orphinated tractors over here. Most are well engineered,and surpass the normal tractors that are available on every corner. A bonus too is that used they are priced well below the fully supported brands. Parts and service info is available,sometimes you just have to dig around a bit to find it though!!!

[HPP]

As one being in the business I totally agree with you guys. The world is getting smaller every day. Even the manufacturers are thinking more and more along this line. Lokking a little on the car-industry I guess.
One problem I´ve met is that most buyers of ag-machinery really do want to have a close look before they buy. Otherwise it shouldn´t be any problem.
Maybe I could even give you guys a good offer?!

[leemsutton]

HPP,

What do you deal in then? List a few examples with prices etc.

Lee

[kenjar]

I agree with you Jon Bos.
If you are willing to pay the price, you should be able to get what you want.

[HPP]

Lee,
we are local distributors of :
Fendt, Massey, Agrolux, Kuhn, Dal-Bo, He-Va, Shaeffer, Thyregod and quite a few other brands.
I guess it could be a little tricky for me to give you offers on new machinery and as far as new Fendt goes I don´t think I could present better prices than my collegues in the UK (don´t have their prices to compare).
But, if any of our used machinery could be of interest, that´s a different story.
In our stock we have a few Fendt 600:s, a couple of MF 3600:s, but, except for the MF3670 from -95, they´re from -89 or older.
We also have a Fendt 822 and a MF 40 Combine but we also have some customers allready lined up for those two.

[leemsutton]

HPP,

Your massey 3670 from 1995 - how much would you be wanting for that. If you post its details I'll have a look around then we could compare.

Lee

[HPP]

Lee,
Might be that webmaster doesn´t like ads in this forum. If so he´s right, so let´s not consider this an ad but pure information!
MF 3670, -95. Datatronic. 4.675 h.
Michelin 650/65R38, 30%
Michelin 540/65R28, 30 %.
Pickup hitch (as normal standard both in Sweden and in the UK).
SEK 250.000:- .Currency rate ? Haven´t checked but i think 1£ would be around 14.20 SEK. Wich in that case makes £ 17.600.-

[eppie]

My overcomplete stock for sale:

1964?? Deutz D50 12.4-36 30% rear, 5.50-16 front tires. 7F/2R speeds, transmission and engine good, oilpump bad. eventually with front loader.

1976 Zetor 6718, 9800 hrs, overhauled, checked and repaired, 12.4-36 eventually with double rears (Molcon system, also fit the Deutz) and 6.00-16 front,  sprung front axle and 'Aerolastik' air sprung drivers seat. Pulls like a locomotive.

Manure tank,  18 M3, 3 axle, (old truck semitrailer with dolly axle) worm type pump.

If you pay, i'll drive them to russia if you want to... could be a nice trip

[Woodbeef]

Hey Boss,

Looks like maybe we need a classified type "For Sale section. What do you think,eh?

[Si]

Lee HPP I valued the MF 3670 in the trade (not a retail price) approx value in the UK trade £12,000
Cheers
Simon

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Kinda coincidental that this happened, but it makes a good point

In sugar beets, we often use a row crop cultivator to eliminate weeds. Dad called a local Canadian distributer yesterday to inquire if he could demonstrate a row crop cultivator - 12 row x 30", with all the add ons. The person never heard of a 12x30 machine, and he didn't even know what all the add ons that dad was talking about. In short, dad knew more about the product then the distrubuter in Canada did. Dad said to the person - "I'm going to Michigan, where they know a lot more about this stuff - your a waste of my time"

This is exactly what my post implies. If you are a dealer, you better have complete knowledge of a product, its uses, etc, and be able to locate one within a few hours, our else you will lose sales. There is no excuse for lack of knowledge these days. Its alright to ask questions, but always be prepared to answer questions too. And if you as a dealer cannot answer my questions, or provide adequate service, then I will go elsewhere - you have to know stuff.

[leemsutton]

HPP & SI,

I went to our local dealers yard and he had in a:

MF 3670 4WD
1996
Datatronic
4,400 hrs
Standard tyres front and back (20-38's etc) 50%
PUH
Air con
Weights

It started up straight away and looked in good condition, although the previous owner was a heavy smoker so the cab stank.

He wanted £15,000 with 6 months warranty. However I think I could have it for about £14,000 cause were good customers which sounds about right if Si is valuing it at £12,000.

So the moral of this story is at this current time with the mixes of exchange rates second hand machinery from europe to england is not viable.

We should do this more often as we have got 3 different views to this:

1. Lee a UK farmer
2. HPP a foreign dealer
3. Si a uk dealer

In fact I am going to e-mail Agboss and ask him to post machinery types for us to price up and after a period of time we will all know where the best deals are going to be from at that time of the year.

Lee